Another PTR patch, still no nerfs for Widowmaker. If the goal is to usher in a new meta, the solution is to take some of the power away from snipers. Snipers by nature are boring to play against, this is exacerbated by Widow’s broken damage output considering her one shot potential requires only LOS and less than a second of rifle charge. Not to mention her get out of jail free card in grapple hook.
People must really enjoy playing versus double shield all day, because Widow is the reason why it’s so necessary, yet they defend her like she’s not the source of the problem lol
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Why they should nerf her to the ground just cause players like you dislike her?
And btw, everything is boring/bRokEn according to the forum logic. And stop scapegoating her into double barrier lmao.
If you keep dying to her STILL, its on you & your teammates.
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People said the same thing about release Brigitte, “oh just keep your distance”, “just go Pharah she counters her”, but she was clearly overtuned.
The same goes for Widowmaker, “oh just stay out of her LOS, it’s your position, it’s your fault”. Good positioning doesn’t mean as much when Widow can just grapple and charge a one shot instant kill faster than you can reposition, it’s absurd. The game would be so much better without her, and one shots in general.
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imagine thinking double shield is meta because of widow lmao
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All metas since double sniper became a thing are a response to how well you can shut down ranged burst damage. You don’t have to take my word for it, just look at the trends
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The truth here is so hilarious it hurts.
People always say: “Just play behind a shield against Widow and you won’t get shot”
Yeah well guess what the pros have been playing the last 3 months!
So in theory, these shield nerfs are actually also buffs to snipers.
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Because it was a good enough reason to nerf junk rat.
She’s oppressive and makes games unfun.
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Don’t forget, the same also happened with:
- Symmetra
- Sombra (literally nerfed for being ‘unfun’
)
- Torb (devs personally felt he was ‘too oppressive’)
- Doomfist when he got hanged back in 2018
At this point, a hero being unfun has been proven by Blizzard to be a valid reason to be nerfed.
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Because she requires FAR less skill to begin offering value than people want to admit. Once your mechanical skill develops to aim well enough you can get immediate value from her.
She’s oppressive. She’s horribly unfun to play against, has few real counters outside a better enemy Widow and is only held down by a barrier heavy meta. She honestly shouldn’t even be in a game like this. Ashe is what Widow should have been and Widow shouldn’t exist.
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its not free, but whatever
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Oh. It’s one of these Threads again. Why am I not surprised.
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“I got killed once and that shouldn’t happen so please devs break whatever killed me kthanks”
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Precisely this, perhaps once Widow is addressed heroes like Ashe and Soldier can begin to shine
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Can you show any proof about this silly statement of yours?
Yet again. This have been said about every hero in this game. And fun is subjective. Unvalid arguement.
(Just cause ya find something unfun doesnt mean that they need to nerf hero to the ground just cause you dislike them.)
Yes she should. And she’s gonna be either you like it or not.
No offense but players like you arent and shouldnt be the ones deciding how the balancing goes like ever.
You can hate Widow all you want but complaining about her in the forums wont make you play better against her.
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You need the same mechanical ability as Soldier/Ashe/McCree, but none of the game sense of those heroes, i.e. ult/ability tracking, positioning in a team fight, cooldown management, etc.
Regarding that, Widow is low risk, high reward due to her ability to have major impact in a team fight that she doesn’t need to think about
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Then would it be okay for me to assume that you want Hanzo nerfed too? If a widow misses her shot, then her position is often revealed. Most of the time, I can’t even tell if a hidden Hanzo is missing his shots until it actually hits me.
In my experience, this doesn’t even work most of the time. And it has a long cooldown.
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Everybody says nerf Widow but how would you do it? She’s a sniper she clicks on heads.
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It’s my opinion. I don’t need to offer “proof”. Many people agree.
This hasn’t been said about “every” hero and it’s “invalid” by the way. It’s been said about Widow A LOT though. Also I never said to nerf her to the ground anywhere and you seem to be making a lot of assumptions about me or others with no information to back yourself up.
Care to elaborate on this? What do you mean “players like you”? I can’t wait to hear this. I’d prefer someone with basic reading comprehension skills is in charge of decisions like this but maybe that’s just me…
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Longer rifle charge time
Only able to use grapple when not taking damage (making Winston or D.Va a more reliable check)
Laser sight to better denote which areas are being denied
Damage cap at 200 so she needs a full charge for an unassisted one shot
There are a lot of options, none of which have even been experimented with outside of custom games
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Yeah. Hopefully this one actually does something.