Just a reminder to nerf this/these heros into the ground, à la Sombra in mid-November 2022, and to leave them that way for at least 11mos until you ‘rework’ them, preferably twice.
Both need a projectile skill shot, as well, and fundamentally change how at least one of their abilities work 
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Next day forum would be filled with crying about menace pharmercy
We have pretty much no recoil baptiste.
Pharah/Mercy have less health than most heroes.
Pharah can’t infinite fly anymore.
Illari doesn’t even have to both healing her team when you can put Pylon down and have it heal for you. Full anti-pharah/mercy attention.
Juno was added with a double jump + hover, auto-aiming rounds, and hitscan.
Pharah/Mercy is dead. Not even including another option like Mauga to burn DoT pharah/mercy from range denying them self healing passives and not needing to commit as much to a dive like a Dva.
Disagree.
Ana is an honest support. Not her fault tanks don’t understand positioning.
Also, certainly not her fault the format blows, so she’s all of a sudden “problematic”.
Nothing honest about Sleep or Anti on a tank hitbox.
Nothing honest about supertanks.
I prefer 2-2-2, and Ana was still busted in it. Try again.
Not an opinion held by anything close to a majority. Just the forum Ana bandwagon pretending otherwise
Maybe in Silver.
100% Anti is an ult ability on a cooldown, how is it (honestly and in good faith) seen any other way?
Also, I’m not pretending. If it can work to get Sombra destroyed it can work to have the same thing happen with Widow and Ana. It also worked for Hog.