I dont understand why Rein has a such an insane pickrate whenever I fight against him, which is almost every match at this point hes not exactly hard to take down. He doesnt dominate the kill feed, and he doesnt seem like he smothers the team like youd expect a hero with sky high pickrates too.
MeanWhile I have almost 100 hours on Rein and I find Orisa to be the most Dull and boring hero on the roster. Shes extremely easy to focus down and about the only thing I can headshot regularly on widow. On paper tho her Kit seems like it’s the answer to all these tank mains complaints, she has a powerful CC resistence, her orb can help confirm kills and help your dps finish them. Her shield is mobile so she doesnt have hold it up while being sprayed in the back like Rein and her range is obviously so much better. I cant think of anything shes missing other than number tweaks or maybe her lack of mobility? I Play alot of Rein and his kit seems perfect for any close up situation you could expect a shield tank to be in but with clear weaknesses at range, with his shield and huge character model.
So I guess my question for everyone is this. Do you honestly think rein is too strong? Or do you think Orisa is just to weak? And if so what could help the hero aside from just nerfing the top competitor like they always seem to do to heros?
Personally I think maybe speeding up her reload animation or raising her HP by 50-100 could a long ways. Either way I feel like Rein nerfs are coming down the pipe soon if the devs dont feel like buffing her Kit.
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I think rein is gonna be nerfed soon to compensate for Orisa underperforming and I think we should buff orisa before we risk turning even more tanks off the main tank role by nerfing everyone’s fav main tank. Rein is awesome and I dont think anyone wants him nerfed.
It’s not Rein’s fault. It’s the support meta fault. The meta comp is a clumped up deathball so everyone has to be mobile but stick within lucio and brig’s range. Rein is the only main tank that can fit here.
No matter how hard you nerf Reinhardt or buff Orisa the meta will not change. This is a death ball meta, Rein isn’t even that powerful to begin with.
They already buffed Orisa, twice, and nothing happened. I bet the devs know that with Brigitte getting nerfed people will come back to play Dive, it won’t be as powerful as before Brigitte’s release but it will still be the strongest thanks to Genji, Tracer and D.va
That was my thinking as well at least as far as rein is concerned theres clear and obvious ways to get him eliminated he doesnt seem too strong. He honestly seems like one of the few heros who are just right for now.
Rein isn’t too strong himself, he just works extremely well with the support meta right now; aggressive, fast paced group play.
Orisa plays well with slower, more methodical compositions, or just straight up comps that don’t need to move that much. It’s not that she’s bad. Her playstyle just REALLY doesn’t work with the GOATs meta.
Okay, so part of the issue with Rien being greater than Orisa is that Rien has 2x more health on his shield, it regenerates in as much time as it takes for Orisa’s cooldown, and he can move with the team. That makes him good on Offensive for pushes. Orisa, on the otherhand, can’t move her barrier, making the team stationary behind it for however many seconds (9?). That makes her good for defense, when holding one spot, but for pushing up, she isn’t as good. Plus, Rien’s ult is unstoppable. It can be blocked and whatnot by shields, but you can’t physically end his ult. Orisa, you can shoot, hack, etc. it and destroy it so that it doesn’t do anything.
It’s not that Orisa is bad and Rienhardt is amazing, it’s that Rien is more viable than Orisa.
Brigitte needed her armor nerfed rather than her shield bash. That’s what keeps GOAT’s afloat a lot of the time. And I hate to say this but…a nerf to Lucio or Zen would also get the job done.
Orisa dosen’t really need much tbh.
All her issues can be dealt with what already was done to other heroes.
Fix that damn reload cancel bug and make her reload dynamic like Ashe’s would make up for her usual sitting to long in cover problem.
Give halt the same tweaks that hook got the last time and that will solve most of incosistancy issues it has.
Add an instant reload upon ult activantion same as Hog has now and she will no longer loose that pushing momentum allowing her to be much more aggressive and active during the attack.
Upgrade some mechanic behaviors for fortify to act more like an actuall wall, aka completely block things like earth shatter, slam, Meka\Tire explosions for her teammates so grouping up with her will be more efficient.
Also would be nice if CD was 8s instead of 10s.
Increase her basic walking speed and decrease her slowing rate while firing, so that Rein will no longer have mobility advantage.
On top of all that i would personally weclome a 20% more fire rate for fusion driver, even though it might be an overkill and won’t be necessary.
It might not shift the meta completly, but it’s good since she will stay balanced and won’t get on people’s nerves too much, wich is far more important for this game i think.
What needs to shift meta in her favor though is another tank like Roadhog who will benefit from being with Orisa more than with Rein.
A Juknker queen with a flamethrower might fit that role nice.
Reinhardt has double the shield hp because he can do only one thing at a time, where Orisa can shoot, use her cooldowns and her ult at the same time while shielding her team.
Reinhardt has weaknesses in every part of his kit, but he has synergies with other heroes to make up for that.
Orisa/Zarya is much iffier than Rein/Zarya because it can be a lot harder for the Zarya can get charge. In aggro Rein/Zarya comps a good Zarya can stay charged easily by bubbling the Rein as he goes in. In Orisa/Zarya this isn’t a possibility, so the Zarya has to wait for the other team to charge her up on their terms. It CAN work, but it’s much less reliable.