Edit after reading a couple posts: Better to nerf dmg and heals at the same time or there won’t be any balance. Makes sense lol. Now read my initial post xD
Just try it on PTR, Blizz. Please.
Nerf every healers healing output (comments can discuss by how much, I’m not too deep into healing and don’t wanna post bs)
It’s just insane how much healing there is currently. Take Bap and Moira and your team gets a sh*tton of heals. No wonder heroes like Soldier and Sombra can’t kill much with their consistent damage output.
Burst rules. Look at Widow, Hanzo and Doom. Decreasing heal won’t change burst damage, but help consistent damage to get back in.
After heroes with cons. dmg get more playtime, you can starting nerfing burst dmg bit by bit.
Don’t buff anymore. Powercreep is annoying as hell and makes balancing harder for everyone.
Just try the heal nerfs on a PTR patch and see how they go. You can also leave them there for more than two weeks for more playtesting and feedback.
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During blizzcon they straight out said that powercreep is not an issue lol.
So good luck with trying to achieve anything with that post.
Also, if they nerf healing, they also have to nerf damage or buff healers utility A LOT
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We have high burst healing cause there’s high burst damage. You just can’t nerf one side both need to be nerfed
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The kind of burst dmg I was talking about are oneshots.
No heal will help there anyway. You can either increase cooldowns or remove the oneshot itself.
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Bap seems balanced
Heal on a lengthy CD
Ult isn’t massive Barrier piercing AOE heal
M2 is a projectile and has a decent rate of fire
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It’s not just one shots tho, there’s plenty of heroes who can pump out tons of damage in a small window.
If you want to nerf healing you have to nerf damage across the board as well.
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I find it less chaotic to start with nerfing heals than both heals and burst dmg at once.
If one is sorta in place you can start looking at the other half. Otherwise it will end up in ping pong balancing.
Welp, why am I even bothering with this thread then
I know for a fact that if you just nerf healing damage will need a nerf as well.
Blizz is already in a ping pong balancing cycle
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A universal heal reduction would be nerfing Mercy even further together with the other healers.
Reapectfully, I oppose this idea.
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So then why don’t you just propose nerfing their healing instead? There’s no reason to nerf every healer’s healing. Poor Mercy.
This is completely unneeded and stupid. If you can’t out damage a Moira healing someone, don’t try to fight the person being healed by her, have your Widow/Hanzo/Ashe stay out of her range and pop her, that’s her major weakness, long range+ohko.
Bapt is pretty easy to kill off and his healing is high as well, literally bait out immortality, kill it, then kill him. I’ve done it numerous times as Hanzo and Ashe.
If anything nerf the ohko bs Doom does while removing every bit of your mobility with every one of his abilities, just nerf OHKO in general.
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how you can nerf the burst healing, when we have dps like hanzo or mcreee, doomfist? those heros destroy tanks.
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Healing per second exists because of this games insane damage ive seen a bob die within like 2 seconds of spawn and he has 1200 health. Without our current healing tanks and everyone would die easily. (Which squishies kinda already do its way easier to heal tanks for that reason). Also ive died in a trans from zen without a anti grenade because the entire enemy team shredded me with a supercharger.
Edit:no it wasnt a dva bomb or junkrat riptire i just got shot by all of them i guess.
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Damage nerf first it is then
Nope, if we nerf heals then we need to nerf damage and tanks at the same time. Powercreep affects all roles, not just support, and doing one role at a time would only wreck the game balance.
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No they dont. Back then you could run Lucio and Zen and the matches would still be fair and balanced. If enemy team got a main healer you wont go far cause you will Lack healing. People still dont realize that 2 main healers can pum more than 120Hp/s and that makes burst damage the only thing viable. If devs said there is no powercreep then it proves my point they dont know what they are doing with the balance anymore.
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Which is just a buff to barriers.
Except that if you nerf healing without nerfing burst damage you’ll just have the exact same heroes but with even less chance of surviving.
They need to nerf a bit of everything.
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I feel like I repeat this too much, but nerfing a bit of everything is just a buff to HP pools. I feel most people saying nerf everything are just asking for an HP pool buff without realising it.
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