Echo is actually broken. She has low cool downs and can kill squishies almost instantly with her bombs combined with her beam. You don’t see a lot of echo but when you do you don’t have chance to see her before you’re dead
Look buddy you should delete this post before these forums eat you alive
But she’s not op. Hitscans counter her way too good
Edit: And so it begins…
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ngl i feel like she needs buffs more than nerfs. she is super loud, her primary fire is super inconsistent, super vulnerable in the air and she heavily relies on the sticky bombs.
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Put on your hard hats everyone, forum users are gonna come down like a sack of hammers
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Shes not op, and why shouldnt she be able to kill one person when using ALL of her cooldowns?
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this is probably part of the crew that claimed she was OP at first then didnt get the memo that she has <1% pick lol
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I admit she can be annoying but considering I don’t see her being picked often I really don’t care that much.
Echo’s normal abilities are not op, but her ult definitely is. Ults are supposed to take time to build up and use, so why is there a character that literally spams ults?
I think echo is a huge sleeper pick and forum is a bunch of idiots not to recognize or see that.
In the hands of a good player I can only imagine some of things echo can do let alone in her ult depending on who she chooses.
The real issue why she has a low pick rate she is not a easy hero by any means: she has a lot of counters/ positioning is key / there’s a stealth like complex to her kit/ her primary aim is hard to land as you are flying around all crazy/ her ultimate is has the widest range of unprecedented unpredictableness.
Plus her personality is as boring as a box of rocks.
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no
You do realize she is the only character in the game who doesn’t actually get to use an ultimate when they press Q right? She literally has to build ult TWICE in order to use a single one, not to mention that realistically she almost never gets to use more than 2 ults within a single duplication, and most of the time she actually only gets one, because of the game’s ult charge cooldown mechanic. Only Rein and Tracer can realistically give 2 ults easily. Duplicate is extremely balanced
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You act as if it actually takes a long time to build a stolen character’s ult, which it obviously doesn’t. It is possible to get shatter in one to two swings and get genji ult after around 250 damage. In duplicated Rein’s case, getting 2 shatters within the span of 10 seconds is not balanced.
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Uhm…
What?
No thanks, I wouldn’t wanna see her nerfed as I find it fun going up against her.
Git gud, like seriously.
The reason that her cooldowns are relatively low is because she is a combo hero like Doomfist. She does NOT do enough just with her primary or stickies to justify having longer cooldowns.
Echo isn’t all that amazing as you say. She has one and very easy counter to her playstyle - supports. The moment that a support heals and undoes the damage on Echo’s target, that’s a lost fight for Echo.
What if I told you that Echo counters hitscans, and shes the best flanker for a 1v1 against hitscans due to her mobility, speed and consistency when the player knows how to play her
Yeah, she’s not OP, i agree.
In the hands of a good player, they can make anyone look or feel OP. Are we going to forget the latest Brig hate-train about how she was OP when she was only getting value in Masters+?
Echo takes a lot to learn, but even then she can be denied very easily.
Possible doesn’t equal guaranteed. Also the enemy team will expect it and spread out, attempt to block it, or be ready to use escapes on reaction
Yes, a DPS hero with one of the lowest pickrates in the game is “OP”. Hitscans hard counter her. Her ult is inconsistent in its value.
Her abilities are fun, but she’s not anywhere near OP.
Yeah, she can easily one-shot you very quickly if she gets close and can use her CDs.
So how exactly does she get so close? Flight? Well then she’ll die on her way out because she has no way to leave. Glide down? Drops predictably and can get shot. Ult in back for survivability? Well then she used all her CDs and her ult, hopefully the kill was worth it.
The hero is TRASH, was poorly designed with a kit that doesn’t flow together at allz and honestly needs buffs. Hitscans aren’t the only thing keeping her down, it’s that she’s supposed to be a burst DPS like genji and doom (devs literally said this btw) but she has ONE mobility cooldown. Genji has dash reset, tracer has THREE blinks and recall, doom has 3 CDs, and echo has… Flight. And flight is good, don’t get me wrong. Still not enough to get in and out, so you end up playing a hero who wants to play close at a long range in the air, with inconsistent dmg and a beam they can’t use because they’re not close enough.