For the love of my sanity please nerf Echo
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nah shes too reliant on her sticky bombs landing, to get good damage. i think shes kind of weak when she misses, shes like a roadhog missing a hook. go in for the kill. her primary fire by itself is rather weak, and she cant get your health down fast enough without the sticky bombs. shes kind of a flying one trick.
Echo is already nerfed especialy if she Qs a tank, she usually de’ults before she can ult most of the time, i think she is kind of joke
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I think echo is pretty good its just that so many people are bad at her cause shes very hard to play well.
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She’s not really that OP. She’s just flying. At thr moment she can be dealt with by competent hitscan but she’ll also be hit hard when the inevitable anti-air niche is filled.
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shes easier to play if you have an elite controller, because of the extra buttons, but on a standard controller you would need to cross your fingers over, to hold the jump button, while also controlling your flight.
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Ramattra also has anti flight,as if she isn’t already hard to play.
Rather nerf or delete the other flying annoyness with rockets! Echo is very fine, in good hands strong as it should be
No nerf needed imo and her ult is already bad.
I mean you ult and then get the chance to perform an ult if you are not unlucky… That´s not very good, isn´t it?
Echo’s prominence recently is down to the addition of aim assist for console players. She is an obvious and easy option where the game helps you aim her stickies and beam. It’s just another reason why cross play should be an opt out option for everyone.
nobodys switching to echo just bc of aim assist…
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I think Echo is actually kinda weak atm. I mean in order to do anything she has to land her sticky bombs whereas most other DPS have easy to land projectiles… Cassidy
And she is just useless against decent hitscan players. Oh and they nerfed the crap out of her ult which she usually dies in before she gets to use anyone else’s ult.
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Evidenced or just your opinion? I’m guessing the latter. Also guessing you’re a console player.
Either way sometimes when you say stuff it may not be true 
echo has nothing to do with aim assist, it sounds like you’re grasping, just bc you hate aim assist. also yes i am a console player, i dont see what that has to do with it… and yes it is an opinion i dont have hard data, i meant it in a rhetorical way. the greater community is not switching to echo just because of an added aim assist, they are not that nitpicky. i imagine a few people would…but not everyone is taking full advantage of aim assist especially on console.
There go those thoughts again. Heros who can dps through beam/tracking are historically more popular picks for controller players where aim assist exists. It doesn’t take a genius to work out why when compared to a single shot hitscan.
You can keep saying stuff but the evidence and history doesn’t support your opinion. Sorry about that. I’m pretty sure now you’re a controller player who plays Echo and you don’t want your toys taken away.
Echo is actually a pretty fair character. She has burst, but at range its hard to land and difficult to land all the shots.
Her mini nukes fire over time allowing you to heal through the damage. Her burst laser requires <50% to burn people down for hitscan at short range.
Meanwhile, Sojourn can fire railgun shots that can instant kill at any range with HS from farming tanks. Why is this fair compared to these other heroes?
Echo is perfectly fine.
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Your edit helps thanks. “Not everyone” means it’s happening. The fact not everyone is doing it doesn’t mean it’s not an advantageous position. If you scan the forum you’ll see no one was complaining about Echo until the last patch. So we agree it is happening - we’re just debating the degree to which players are adopting her. I’m ok with that as it’s the removal of cross play opt out I have an issue with not the aim assist. I’m happy to see controller v controller with aim assist as that can be balanced. Just give everyone the option to opt out and it’s all good imo.
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console players dont minmax as much as pc players, im sure there are a few people that would take advantage of something like that, but i don’t think most people would care…
i do edit my posts a lot, i might just be overthinking things
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Console players don’t min/max.
I must have missed that research paper. Humans approach to problem solving, and human behaviour in general, changes based on their hardware? Really!? So you’re saying console players wouldn’t choose a hero they would have more fun and success on. If that’s true it may explain why aim assist is even a thing 