She’s still too much like a damage dealer. Most of the Tanks in general deal too much damage, but D.Va is without a doubt one of the strongest enablers of Goats. Making every Tank more durable, but less like damage dealers would fix a lot that is wrong with the game.
Please, no. She’s not even the most picked Tank. Reinhardt is, nerf him instead.
And she’s not even the strongest enabler of goats, that goes to Zarya, she gives the shield that allows them to rush, after all.
And i’m not saying this because i have the most time on D.va, i’m saying this so that the devs don’t make another terrible decision.
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She is so much of a “damage dealer” that the pros prefer to swap her with sombra over anyone else.
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News flash: D.va used to be more durable. But no one liked it, so they made her a better close range bruiser.
If you still are having problems with her paper mache mech I suggest you switch to someone who is capable of demeching her faster.
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I agree, she should get nerfed again
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This.
DDings Sombra was #1 reason for Shanghai beating Boston.
The only thing D.Va can do right now is waiting for that Zarya Grav and try to catch it. Since you have 2 Support ultimates to counter the Grav, Sombra turns out to be way more effective in many situations because she can easily set up 6 man Shatters with it.
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We’ll still eat your ults and burst you down,
sincerly
-D.va mains everywhere
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Nerf her again and you’ll still be asking for more nerfs 1 month later, and again after that and again and so on.
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This is literally the forum mentality,
With no sensible argument why half the time.
If not nerfs every month just straight up “delete this hero plz blizz x”
It’s time to stop 
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So, make Dva worthless? Because her damage was given to her so the devs could take away most of DMs power. And it seems they’re still not done nerfing it.
Dva had a lot more tankiness before. People whined so much about it that Blizzard took it away and gave her damage instead.
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Does this come with a nerf Zarya harder rider? As she’s picked more and does more damage.
Hahaha, hey guys. Remember when DVA was an actual meaty tank and not the up close brawler DPS she is now??? But people were upset and went on a nerf witchunt and gave us the Dva we have today?
Haha, good times.
It’s almost like this forum begs and begs and begs for nerfs only to then whine for the original state of a character a year or two later.
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Strongest enabler in goats you say? When Zarya on average is doing 148dps? If zarya dies, only 6% of teamfights are won, said the casters? Graviton surge decides who wins teamfights? Dva being swapped out but still enabler of goats? 
Can’t enable goats core if ur being swapped out for sombra lmao.
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Actual evidence? That backs up your point??
OP could learn a thing or two from you Nere 
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They should’ve nerfed her damage and not DM ![:expressionless:](https://d74zh8edaijub.cloudfront.net/en/overwatch/images/emoji/twitter/expressionless.png?v=6" ":expressionless:")
The whole rework into a bully tank was a bad move IMO
Oh yeah, that is why we had goats whenever Rein / Dva / Zarya were as strong as they are now.
Oh wait, we didn’t.
We only get Tank metas when supports which enable tanks more are made.
The tanks are not the problem or… they would have been a problem before this.
The 3 tank meta was caused by Ana, Moria created Slambulance (which wasn’t bad, and was kinda Niche), Brigitte caused Goats. She is a lot better support for the tank players than for the DPS.
D’va isn’t your problem. She has had nerfs before Goats, and during Goats. She isn’t the cause. She isn’t your solution.
Dva does equal damage to zarya and roadhog on average on ladder, but loses greatly to zarya damagewise at high rank. Zarya is literally the dps in goats when it’s being played since she runs around with max charge all the time.
If dva’s damage is supposedly too high (it’s not, missiles do 126dps 8s cd and her fusion cannons have falloff past 10meters), then every other damage source is vastly higher and needs a nerfbat too.
Btw, it’s logically impossible for character to be an goats enabler, important part of goats if they get swapped out of it for other characters.
The characters that never get swapped out of goats, no matter the form, are Zarya and Lucio. Those are the chars that enable goats.
Dva wishes she got like 44 self-destruction kills in a set lmao. Or 10k damage per 10min.
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Dva is already in bad spot, in Goats she’s switched to Sombra. Why ask for more nerfs?
Here’s the difference, though.
Roadhog has no mobility and extremely poor damage denial. Damage and a large health pool are pretty much all he has
Zarya, outside of high ranks, is about equal on damage and damage denial to DVa, but lacks mobility.
The issue isn’t that DVa’s damage is “too high.” It’s that it’s too high considering all the other things she can do compared to the other off-tanks. Zarya acts as a DPS in GOATS because GOATS heavily enables her through long, drawn-out fights that let her build up large amounts of charge. Hence why you see Zarya’s damage drop off very quickly outside of GM, but DVa’s drops far more slowly, because she isn’t so meta-supported in this way and tends to just deal high damage out-of-hand.
Zarya had the second-lowest pickrate among GOATS heroes in OWL, only beating Reinhardt and losing to DVa by a non-insignificant margin. The only character who truly is never swapped out in GOATS is Lucio. All the others are fair game.
Almost like chars are supposed to do other things than just deal damage. Roadhog, zarya, wrecking ball etc. got their own strenghts and weaknesses just like dva and they can do multiple other things better than just deal damage. Dva’s damage and ulti happens to be better versus goats though, than roadhog’s ability to pick squishies and wrecking ball’s ability to harrass backline and snipers and squishies.
Dva still doesn’t deal excessively more damage than hog or zarya, at any rank and her damage can be sustained easier with no reload. And any damage dva deals, she will feed just as much back because she has to be in enemy’s face to do so. Zarya doesn’t.
Fusion cannons got their 9% nerf back in january 2017 and missiles got first nerfed in ptr, then second time in season 10. There is no reason to nerf her puny cannons or puny 126dps missiles any further.
Point me to games where goats is ran and Zarya is swapped out. I’ve yet to see such a game. Not having graviton surge is basically throwing.
Also, Dva had like bit over 80% pickrate and Zarya had 76% pickrate, but Dva has also been used in other comps like duo dive with wrecking ball. Since she’s a dive tank, duh.
Zen is still the second most picked char in owl, but nobody whines to nerf Zen as hard as they whine to nerf dva.
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