Need to get to diamond quickly

VX5J7K latest replay

been playing for 1100 hours and still haven’t touched diamond. i don’t really care about staying in diamond because I plan on just quitting after. i just want to get there once and have the satisfaction of reaching it. (DPS player primarily)

also this replay was ridiculous, that genji deflected like 4 ults that game.

I cheesed my way into diamond on dps a few seasons ago playing mostly junk and torb. If your aim isn’t good I recommend that. Torb is very boring but junk is pretty fun.

Let me give you a spoiler alert, you get close to diamond and/or cross into diamond and then go on a 10+ loss streak. I encourage you to turn on your mic during this time and try to talk to your teammates, they literally have no idea how to do even fundamentals of the match. They don’t know what peeling is, they don’t combo ults, they will literally ask “what should I do?” as you can hear the desperation in their voice as they lose rank from the account they just paid to be boosted.

The game is a sham, and they’ve given us no communication on what’s going on with the new matchmaker so we have every reason to believe it’s going to be just as bad.

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You seem to be under the impression that this game is an MMO or RPG or some other type of game that gives you progression based largely on time spent.

This, my friend, is not that kind of game.

It is perfectly reasonable and entirely possible and even most likely that the rank that you are at will remain the rank you have into perpetuity. That’s just how the game is designed. You’re not intended to gain ranks, really.

In order to gain ranks, you need to put a lot of focused effort into the game. It’s worthwhile for some to do so, but whether it is worthwhile for you is your decision.

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The fastest way to rank up is to cheat. The 2nd fastest way is to group up with a smurf.

Those are the 2 quickest ways im aware of to get to diamond.

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Grind your mechanics for like 2 to 3 months. Go back and collect free SR.

Worst advice I’ve ever seen on the forums.

  • Though, likely not incorrect.
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OP read the above comment. The competitive mode works nothing like competition in real life, it’s designed to keep you at the rank you are currently at, even if you are playing far better than everyone in the matches you are in. I’ve seen gold tier caliber players in Masters, I’ve seen Masters caliber players in gold tier and ask them “what’s your main rank?” and they say “gold.”

When we say the matchmaker is broken, we aren’t using a metaphor, it’s broken like a car that has an engine that can turn on but can’t go anywhere. You being in diamond at this point probably has NOTHING to do with your skill, because if you were to buy a new account and play your best through ranking to 25 and continue to do so into competitive you would land in diamond in the first two weeks. If you were to continue to play at that level you would then get stuck in diamond. Then go back to your old account and try to get it to diamond, nope, not gonna happen.

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Blizzard: okay, try more, you will never quit tho xD

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ill take a look at your replay

starting off with soldier:
hes a good pick, he can work well in just about every team comp or vs every team comp. the main issue people have when playing soldier is not abusing angles and highground enough, so that will be something to watch for closely. especially given that your teamcomp has a mercy pocket, bap and cassidy (all fantastic for surrounding and taking angles). doubly so because you have a ball, and if you aren’t on an angle, you won’t be able to easily follow up when he piledrives.

tldr: in general you should be aware that your goal is to take and control angles and highground, not putting yourself afk behind a shield and not finding yourself in the middle of the enemy team like most plat soldiers

first point there are a couple things to note:

  • helix rocket timing is a bit early, also, you might land them more consistently by shooting them at their feet rather than their torso. (like for example, right after you cap point a you push up and try to get a kill on poopmaster69, but the helix rocket flies past him into the distance instead of detonating)
  • risky positioning as the fight opened up - you should almost never find yourself surrounded by the enemy team as soldier (though i dont fully blame you, i dont think anybody noticed roadhog slip behind your team. yes, arguably he should have been seen)
  • the flank at 1:27 was a good move, but it’s not clear to me if you were aware of how much health you had. did you know you had 87hp? :wink: i would have still gone for it, but animation cancel rocket into healpad and then shoot her afterwards, maybe it keeps you alive. either way, it was enough work and they didn’t have much of a chance from there.
  • your angle control was alright, i mean it wasn’t standing out as fantastic like a masters smurf 76 would in plat but it was good enough so far. you weren’t afk behind reinhardt, which is always good to not see

second point:

  • at 2:31, why give up on the fight vs genji and int towards sigma? he’s the only thing stopping you from taking highground, which you REALLY want as soldier, and he’s also the only thing stopping you from killing the hanzo who should be a REALLY easy kill at this range… and you have a mercy pocket. It’s not a duel you lose. Go back in there and ego him! don’t back up stand infront of the entire enemy team and feed! :laughing:
  • not rolling out highground on the second fight is fine because it’s sort of already over (great pick on hanzo, and your cass hid in a fantastic position) but you don’t immediately take highground as it resolves, so i’m gonna have to leave a remark on your permanent record :x:
  • 3:35 go highground! you have no angle here and AND visor :skull: SERIOUSLY go third person in the replay here, pan up to the bridge, and imagine if you hit Q. luckily your cass had some initiative and did it instead, getting a kill on genji… if you were there with him, and believe me mercy would be with you too, you three probably could have killed the sigma too instead of letting him bully cassidy off the bridge.
  • losing that fight hurts. now that the other team is regrouped on highground, fighting uphill is hard on eich, especially if your tanks don’t know what to do. you still should try to take highground anywhere they aren’t controlling it, but you need to also be mindful of what the enemy tanks are doing cause sig and hog can both easily bully you out, so you gotta be careful with it.
  • 5:00 your mercy (unfortunately) died because of your hesitation. either rotate or don’t, don’t become indecisive halfway through your rotation when you have a pocket, especially if you’re in the open or being shot at from highground. it all worked out in the end, but i think the outcome of this fight (and this phase of the map) was mostly dictated by who missed the most shots… not actual decisions being made.

third point:

  • this is the point that usually becomes a lot harder for soldier. genji’s hard to hit, sigma and zen have amazing spam, the flanks suck. :laughing: i would just go hanzo or junk here and turn my brain off for a bit, but your team has a lot of ults so you probably just win anyway.
  • ahh nevermind. genji or ana had to die a little earlier but it was a good attempt. in retrospect, maybe too much of the visor was used on hog. your team was already bullying him into the corner - maybe the play is to ignore hog, visor their zen (poopmaster69), then push up to your left and kill squishies (which was the ana and genji that carried the fight). those few moments of visor used on roadhog might have been what allowed genji to farm his last few % and wipe the team. tight margins, but that’s to be expected in a close game.
  • alternatively, if you knew nanoblade was near, it would also have been a smart play to save visor for nanoblade, and position far enough back that he can’t dash to you and instakill you.
  • 8:00 go push zen and take highground! free kill, free positioning! he’s doing so much damage… and he farms a whole tranq off of it. poopmaster69 is having the free-est game of his life :skull:
  • i should probably note, if you DID take highground, it would have been very important to listen for the reaper flank and immediately drop if he’s coming up behind you, cause thats not a range you should win that 1v1

i can’t really comment on mei on defence. i’m not a mei player. :snowflake:

tldr:

  • highground control
  • make use of your pocket to take lopsided duels, if mercy is with you
  • go for high percentage moves, like helix rocket → feet, not helix rocket → upper body
  • dont get caught out in the middle of the enemy team
  • anticipate nanoblade
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Weird. Every time I use an alt account, or I make a smurf, or anything like that, I cross into diamond with no struggle at all. Because, I’m better than plat players.

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Ummm…this is exactly how competition works in real life.

Unless you see a lot of 90 year old men playing professional sports, it’s based on actual skill, not time played. If you’re not being scouted for a better league, you’re not actually “playing far better than everyone in [your league]”. You’re just not recognizing your own mistakes.

In absolutely zero real life cases are people ranked up in without effort in the way many video games do. OW is not one of those games, at least not in competitive mode.

It sorts you by skill (handicapping, if you must, but not in the disabling sense) and then lets you play in your league. You thinking you’re better than your league is your problem, not a design problem.

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Yup I thought the same thing, until I came across a truly broken account that is 5x harder to rank up than all my other accounts.

Nobody is wanting to be ranked up based on time played, you are the only person who has mentioned that in this entire thread.

Your Dunning Kruger is showing.

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It´s incredible how you manage to ignore all his important points while simultaneously using the Term “Dunning Kruger” wrong.

The irony here is pure comedy gold.

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Let me get your discord and I’d love to play on that.

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That is meaningless. What’s easier is buying an account in diamond. But why would you do that? The whole point is earning the achievement. That’s like the equivalence of playing Minecraft with cheats on and giving yourself full netherite armor.

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I don’t think it means what you think it means :rofl:

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What’s lol is that I know exactly what it means and I’m tired of seeing your tiny group use it incorrectly so I’ve decided to start pointing it out.

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Lol…. It’s not used incorrectly. It perfectly highlights the majority of players mentality when they go around blaming other people and inanimate objects for their personal failures.

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YOU and your few buddies are the Dunning Kruger effect (which is mostly not understood by the people who quote it, which is insanely ironic). Dunning Kruger describes people who know just a surface level amount of information about a topic so they don’t even know enough about the topic to realize how complex it is and so they think they know exactly how it works when they’ve only brushed the surface. Now if they continued to learn about the topic they would realize how complex it actually is and then realize they know nothing. If they still continued to learn more and more they would eventually understand almost everything about the topic and become confident in their knowledge, but this time for the right reasons.

YOU know so little about how the matchmaker actually works that you don’t realize how wrong you are. I’ve put in the time and experimentation to know how the matchmaker works and that’s why I’m confident in this topic.

So we’re both convinced we have it correct but out of the two of us I’m the only one who has put in the time to experiment and truly understand it, you and your buddies are the Dunning Kruger.

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no one knows how it works, everyone has theories, but since none of us (im assuming) work in that department for blizz and since thats part of their IP (intangible assets) none of us will ever know.

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