Your idea has been very much appreciated, in case you are in EU I’ve already sent you a friend request, please tell me if you are NA as I might have a proposal for you with an invite, more details out of the forum
I can log anywhere, thanks ^^
btw, I have also saves your idea on my personal archive and it will be saved there forever even in case of sudden censorship here in the forums.
Appreciated, thanks ^^
Well, how about we make it interesting then.
- Valk on Q
- Instarez on Q in Valk
- E in Valk to disable all self-regeneration for 5 seconds but raise healing output by 20 for 3 seconds.
Not sure if that fits. But if you want power, a double-edge approach works better.
They also said they don’t want Dva to be a bully tank.
Well I mean if she can get so much dmg why can’t we get Mercy how we want her. After all we are playing her and WE ARE TRYING to make it as 2-side balanced as possible
Far too strong and still not more fun. It’s just the same with Val we have right now. Skilless, boring, OP and unfun for everyone.
Val is irreparable on Mercy.
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Either way, I’d argue if you want a teamfight deciding ability, there’s gotta be some downside to balance it.
You do realise that this Valkyrie you suggested would just be a op mess again right? Far more messy than Mass Res ever could be. Meanwhile, it wasn’t even remotely OP.
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You guys keep saying that.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cE1YZhCZzBw/WcJh9LKofwI/AAAAAAAABGI/wQMyBjV1vyg7jcfVt37d5wOV-YqVroi7wCLcBGAs/s1600/PC_Usage_Overall.png
Even though the upcoming patch Mercy will probably be more balanced than that.
OH YES.
“Save people”
-cant even save people with heal…
From when exactly are those statistics? As you knw… pre invuln patch mercy was almost never used and was considered throw picking
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Lol no the last 10 nerfs did nothing.
this one will do nothing.
just like 5 months ago when people were dancing on her “grave”
its not gonna end with this nerf xd
it wont end till we get a rework or revert.
mercy 2.0 is flawed at the core.
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And here we are again. Stats with absolutely no context.
http://www.omnicmeta.com/2017/02/pc-competitive-ladder-season-3-report.html
S3, Mercy with Mass Res and 60 HP/s
Long after the 60HP/s buff.
And shortly before the Mass Res buff
Mercy is not really strong but still picked, less and less in higher ranks.
S4W5 after her Res buff
(5 weeks is already a very long time)
http://www.omnicmeta.com/2017/04/pc-hero-meta-report-s4w45.html
What i would consider as very good balance. That was before the SR exploit as well.
But that Ana got nerfed hard with buffs to heroes which are storng against her and after the discovery of the SR exploit on Mercy.
http://www.omnicmeta.com/2017/05/pc-hero-meta-report-s4w1011.html
S4W11 Still at Master and GM, Ana is picked more, but the indiract nerfs to her are already very apparent in lower ranks, as well as the fact that we only had 2 main healers at that time.
Now S5W5.
http://www.omnicmeta.com/2017/07/overwatch-hero-meta-report-pc-s5-w5.html
More indiract nerfs force her out of the Meta. Still we only have Mercy as a 2end main healer. The remaining weeks are history because Ana can’t do anything against Dive.
Fast forward:
Mercy’s OP rework, which still is not fixed, hits the game, causing a permanent Mercy Meta with E res and Val over more than 4 seasons, even in comps in which Ana would be stronger than her and with many other new healers.
Now… Which version of Mercy was more broken?
Valkyrie or Resurrect? And before you answer, consider the context of all situations.
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Huh… never thought to try getting Grey to stop with this disingenuous line of “The stats show that Mercy is OP” by dumping MORE stats on him… hopefully it’ll work.
Or… he’ll just ignore it like he ignored Titanium’s monster thread.
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The same as the last nerf, and the last one before the last one, and the last one before it, and the last… up to 10 times right now.
Making the same mistake once is bad. Making the same mistake twice is disgusting. Making it thrice is stupid. Do you really think that making the same mistake 10 times will fix something?
Please, Grey, land on Earth. This design is doomed to never work, the vast majority of the people playing Ow knows it. You can show us some convenient graphycs from dive meta forgetting to explain what was dive meta like, but you can’t fool us. We played her, we know how is she and how she was. We know her statistics and why they were that way.
Dive meta was either pick Mercy or both Zen and Lucio, because Genji, Tracer and Winston were gods and they were everywhere, so the team needed a non aimed healer, better a mobile support. Even after saying this, Mercy was not so picked at pro Rank because she had no mid game utility, aka no E ability, so once you learnt to deal with her ult (pretty easy if you were good enough) she was weak in comparison with other supports.
So Blizz, easy solution. Stop wasting everyone’s time with a cluster of old bad designs. Set rez as her ult, bring her a real E ability (so replace both E and Q) and balance from that point. Keeping this design will only ruin your game, as it’s happening.
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It’s like a certain people at the dev team are holding onto the valk version like its their baby or something. Don’t know if they actually played Mercy for more than 20 mins to see what her real problems are…
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I’m happy they are buffing the support role next patch but they are only doing it to match this broken reworked Mercy. They wouldn’t need to buff everyone if this version of Mercy didn’t outshine all the other support.
I mean, I’ve been over it before with Titanium and keeps acting like pickrates between June and September are unable to change. Within the top 33% of players.
Where as the effect of that Ana nerfs late March 21, 2017 are already set in stone by June 30, 2017
Heck, the Lucio changes were on April 11th 2017. That alone would have had a bit of a community learning curve.