Hi all, I decided to make this thread to share my opinion on Ashe, and also to get your opinion.
The Viper
The Viper is a semi-automatic/lever-action rifle that can be fired in rapid succession and can ADS for more accurate shots. I can’t even tell what type of gun it is anymore. Ok, I guess it’s a lever-action rifle. The Viper does great damage over long distance whilst ADS’ing, but is not recommended in short range. Her reload time also suits the amount of damage that she can do, however, you can cancel her reload at any time, instead of having to wait for a full mag to be reloaded before you can shoot. This feature helps her stay alive whenever she gets jumped whilst she is reloading. Whilst The Viper does great damage, I do feel that her ADS headshot damage could be reduced, as her high damage rewards accuracy, but she has 12 rounds, making it a lot easier for her to finish off a target quickly.
Coach Shotgun
The Coach Shotgun is a self-applicable version of Lucio’s Boop, and it is a great mobility tool. It allows for some extremely unique plays and movement, which can help her get an edge over her opponents. The cooldown time is appropriate for the utility of this ability, as she can jump really high into the air, get environmental kills, finish off really low enemies, etc.
Dynamite
The Dynamite is a throwable explosive that explodes within 3 seconds once it is firmly on the ground, or can be shot for an immediate explosion. Overall, it is a great tool that can help her finish off some enemies that are causing her problems. I do feel as if the DoT for her Dynamite could be slightly reduced, as I’ve had times where an enemy hits me once with a body shot, hits me with the dynamite, and I’m killed.
B.O.B.
Her ultimate, B.O.B., is a great area denier. Once deployed, he charges in, until he hits a wall or an enemy, the latter resulting in the enemy being lifted up into the air. Once B.O.B. has stopped, he will start shooting enemies. For B.O.B., 1200 health is appropriate because he can take down someone by themselves, but starts having problems when approached by a group of 2 or more. He is treated as another member of the team, meaning that he is affected by all crowd control abilities, and can be given boosts by his teammates. B.O.B. can also contest objectives, which allow for some wiggle room in last minute clutches. Overall, B.O.B. is in a really great position.
Final Verdict
Overall, Ashe and B.O.B. are one of the most balanced heroes that have been released. The process of testing her at BlizzCon really helped out with that, however, I do feel that minor changes could be made that won’t change her too much, just her damage output.
Thank you for picking up on that.
I just checked the Overwatch page for Ashe, and The Viper is a semi-automatic rifle. Just fixed it. I thought that it was a shotgun, so it was just a simple misunderstanding.
THE VIPER
Ashe’s semi-automatic rifle fires quick shots, or she can aim down sights for a more damaging, precise shot.
But later in the same article, it says this:
Her primary weapon is theViper, a lever-action rifle with two firing modes: semi-automatic and aim down sights. In semi-automatic mode, the Viper shoots rapidly with a high spread. Aiming down the sights lets Ashe line up precise shots, increasing damage at the expense of speed.
The post now says “semi-automatic/lever-action rifle”.
An automatic weapon is a weapon that can be fired in rapid succession.
A shotgun is a close range weapon (with certain exceptions i.e. double barrel) that has a very limiting rate of fire (you have to wait between firing two rounds of a shotgun).
A semi-auto has traits of both automatic and shotguns. It has a slight wait time between each shot, however, it is possible to fire it in rapid succession.
First, an automatic and semi automatic both fire rapidly. Semi-automatics fire as fast as you can pull the trigger(It cycles a new bullet into the chamber between trigger pulls), while automatic fire in succession while the trigger is held down. Other mechanisms exist like pumps, levers, or bolts which are not semi or full automatic. You can still fire some mechanisms in rapid fire(EG, a double action revolver like McCree has can fire as fast as you can pull the trigger, but isn’t actually semi-automatic).
A shotgun does not have any firing speed limit aside from the firing mechanism, which is the same as any other gun. Semi-automatic shotguns exist, as do pumps, breaks, and multibarreled. EVerything you said about shotguns was just weird.
And third… what? This is just gibberish.
Sincerely,
Someone who actually considers gun education important.
When I made this post, I was expecting a discussion about Ashe, not about the kind of weapon Ashe has.
Also,
Why the hell are you insulting me? What good are you going to get out of it? I was simply stating my understanding of the weapon types. This kind of knowledge I’ve gotten from Rainbow Six Siege.
I didn’t mean my last line as an insult. I meant it more as “most people don’t know the difference, but I take a lot of time studying it and educating people”.
Ashe seems pretty bad. All night long, I had a mandatory Ashe every round, and she nearly always sucked. I was almost always outdamaging her as the tank.
She kind of reminds me of McCree or Widow, in that I can imagine she’d be powerful in good hands, but she’s unreliable for most players and often outright bad.
Also, like a lot of hitscan, she’s absolutely terrible at breaking shields so she should not be played with another DPS who cannot break shields or the enemy tanks will walk all over you.
Edit: I will also say Ashe seems to feel a lot more powerful than she is. I played her a couple of rounds, and I felt like I was doing great, just loving the kit… and then I noticed that I would have terrible performance, like bronze elims and no medal for damage.
Anyways, I wanted to drop in my opinion as well. I think she is well rounded with a lot of options. I personally like to use her as an “offsniper”, where I mainly stick with or close to the team but look for ways to pick off the enemy from perches. She works pretty well like this, and her bomb is a nice way to cut off escapes or to harass the enemy. The bomb has several really good tricks with it and you can YEET the thing across a map as well. Her coach gun is a perfect mix of CC and mobility, and makes you choose how to use it. Bob is a TOOOON of fun, and can open up the enemy shell for your team to follow up. Even if he dies in a few seconds, he can distract the enemy for your team or force them off a point momentarily. Her hipfire is terrible at close range, and her close range options are garbage once she shoots for her three seconds. She is better mid-long range.
My favorite tricks are as follows-
Dropshot: Jump off a ledge over the enemy, throw bomb, and then coachgun back to safety. Blows the bomb up and it’s free damage.
Bob-Bomb: Throw a bomb under the enemy as Bob knocks them up. 9/10 they won’t hear/see it and you can peg it as they fall onto it if you’re good enough.
Trickshot: Throw bomb and instantly shoot. Pops bomb at 10m and you won’t get hurt.
Automatic - Pulling and holding the trigger causes the weapon to fire until there is no more ammunition in the magazine.
Semi-Automatic - Pulling the trigger causes the weapon to fire one round, and load another round into the chamber to be fired with another trigger pull. Holding the trigger has no effect.
Action (ie, Lever-action, bolt-action) - Pulling the trigger causes a round to be fired. A second step (working a lever, pumping the slide, etc.) causes another round to be loaded into the chamber to be fired.
And completely separate:
Shotgun: A weapon that fires a cartridge of small pellets (shot) and is smooth-bore as a result. Automatic variants exist.