My name is Karen and this game destroyed me

Update: I’m playing again. The majority of the people in the comments hyped me back up and here we go again. I changed my name, I’m maining tank now. I picked Sigma, he is a gem. People are taking me more seriously now that I don’t have a basic girl name gamertag and I stopped playing support characters. There is still the occasional person commenting about “E-girls”, but I don’t tolerate it and I’ve had enough. I hit plat with Sigma 2600, I’ve only been playing him for around 7 hours, but I want him to be my reason to keep playing. If I have to crawl back to diamond on Sigma I’ll do it. I’m not playing this game to fuel my pride anymore, I’m doing it because Sigma deserves it. Thank you to everyone who told me to grow thicker skin and thank you to everyone recognizing that there is indeed a community wide toxicity problem without turning a blind eye. You’re both right, there is no black and white.

tldr. I quit playing Overwatch because I put myself in a vicious cycle of playing my heart out to prove a point to people that didn’t matter.

Firstly I should state my name isn’t actually Karen and that I stopped playing Overwatch several months ago. This is why.

I enjoyed this game very much when I started playing under the username “Nakurex”. It was new and exciting and really got my heart pumping, especially competitive. I never had a problem, everyone was so kind and I mostly kept to myself. I wasn’t set on aiming high in competitive so I didn’t use a mic and not too many people complained.

And then the bad*ss known as Geguri was introduced to Overwatch League. SHE. WAS. AWESOME. The first ever Overwatch League female, it was truly motivating. It’s pathetic-I know, I showed so much admiration for the first female to join a competitive team. That was because in my head at the time I thought “if she can do it then it wouldn’t be so otherworldly for me to try.” I was inspired.

So I changed my username to “Janessa” for self representation. It wasn’t uncommon for people to use their first name as their username.

I started playing competitive with a mic, which was a big deal for me because I already knew what to expect. I was ready anyway. If anyone said anything to me about my voice, I was prepared to throw shade back. I know how this works, I’ve been online for years. For the most part I was polite and respective, optimistic at most.

Then I started noticing something- I was receiving more negative comments when I admitted to a bad play. I wasn’t a bad player, I can say that with confidence. The whole reason I was so determined to start competitive was because I knew I was decent. Then it got worse.

Him: “Both of our healers are girls.”

Myself and the other healer: “So? What does it matter?”

Him: Laughing

After we won the game.

Him: “40 eliminations? No wonder I wasn’t getting healed.”

I had more healing then our other healer up until the very last moment of the game so I finished with silver healing to our Mercy. It was around 15,000 healing which was a good for the amount of time played in that competitive match. This was also before Mercy’s healing nerf so it was understandably accurate. I explained this to him with the most unbiased attitude I could vocalize.

Him: “Alright.”

Kicks me from the group.

So basically I got kicked from a group for explaining how Moira works. The reason for my disdain for that particular incident was because it was one of my best plays to this day. I earned the highlight to that game showcasing my ultimate for HEALING.

Lesson learned: sometimes people are prideful jerks. Moving on.

I have an overall balanced play time across all characters. My most played is Mercy, but lets be real she could revive the entire team at one point so of course I played her a lot in competitive. No this does not qualify me as a “Mercy main.” That doesn’t stop people from calling me that, CONSTANTLY. I thought if I balanced all of my characters it would negate the comments, it didn’t. I didn’t even want to play support at that point so I started playing tank. I love Reinhardt with all my heart.

Then I found out that people are allowed to throw shade at me for being a girl, but I’m not allowed to throw shade back at them for that exact reason.

I was playing Soldier 76 and doing well. 17-0 then I was killed by the opposing Genji. He stood on my corpse and wrote “Mercy main lol”. It was your average shade tossing, another normal day. Then my team turned it around and I got revenge. I stood on Genji’s corpse and wrote “Beat by a girl lol”.

It was the cringe. Cringe was good, but it was a mistake on my part obviously I shouldn’t have said it. At the time I thought if you’re going to say something stupid to me I’m going to say something stupid to you.

Then a few days later I came across a video. It was a video made by the same Genji player complaining about girls in games saying “you got beat by a girl.” The Genji deliberately left out the part where they called me a Mercy main and lied about the amount of times it was said which was ONCE so I commented on the video explaining the situation and why I shouldn’t have said it. The Genji player was also female and the reason I bring that up is because they must’ve understood my frustration because the video was taken down days later.

Here’s a few other examples of things that have happened during my time playing Overwatch:

I joined a competitive group and the leader called me a “th*t” then kicked me.

During a game I calmly asked for help on mic. “I need help.” Then someone responded with “******* e-girl.”

The beginning of another game someone immediately wrote “I’d **** a Janessa.” I responded with “please stop” and they kept going anyway. I muted him and then his friend kept spamming me with invites to their group. That was the first time I experienced the “action has been taken” message after reporting them.

There was a time where I tried to embrace the comments and the outcome worsened. Someone made the remark “I like Janessa because at least she knows her place.”

Playing Mercy was the worst experience of my life. Any time our team was doing poorly it was only natural to point fingers at your healer. “Aren’t you a Mercy main? You should know how to heal.”

I am just another girl complaining about sexism when the reality is everyone receives the same amount of shade equally. It comes in different forms depending on the person at the receiving end-I know. I know all of that.

But I hate myself.

I hate being a girl wanting more then anything to go pro. I hate knowing that if my dream came true I’d only be recognized for being female in the pro scene. I’m sorry Geguri. I loved you because I felt like if there was already a girl in Overwatch League then I could do it too and it wouldn’t be a big deal. I disregarded all of your hard work just as others have done to me.

The hate fueled me. I hated myself so much every time someone said something to me that it drove me to work harder and try better, to learn, to be good. It worked, but destroyed me. And for what? To climb to diamond once as a Moira player.

Please see me for what I am not who I am.

Trash.

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If you skipped below OP, this isn’t worth the read. :slight_smile:

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Or is it…

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Didn’t you post this on Moira mains reddit last week or smth?

or am I having a déjà vu moment?

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this kind of makes me really lol tho

lol

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Sorry that your experience was so horrible. I don’t understand why some guys and girls are just toxic as hell. Its really annoying and I can only really relate this to their lack of maturity and younger age really.

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This user did the right move. It ain’t worth the process of thought.

At first I laughed about it too.

it is a weird situation tho and yea i hate to be in your shoes

i wouldnt feel bad tho its just a game

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Yeah. I guess it’s the same as putting your heart in something that can’t love you back. Thanks.

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Ironically, I can really relate to this story despite being male. Obviously there is no inherent sexism that I faced, but the experience and feelings that come with the toxicity are very similar. It has made me resent the in-game community as a whole.

I have no advice because realistically I have not figured it out either. All I can do is just ignore the nonsense and enjoy the game the way I choose to spite them.

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I feel this.
I absolutely feel this, and I don’t like that I do, because it was better to believe that no one else went through it in this game. That being working hard amidst all the crap Overwatch tosses your way for a shiny reward that no longer feels like it was worth it.
I climbed to Master four times as a support main/tank flex, and after countless rankshames, full targets by both teams for insults and derogatory remarks, report threats for existing, no matter who I played or what I did, all while trying to keep my SR stable amidst drastic changes… I just kind of snapped, sputtered, and burnt out like a dying star.
I can’t even play this game competitively anymore without at least two weeks in between sessions. I used to be the most chill person ever when it came to this game, but now I tilt if I lose, I tilt if I win, I tilt if someone looks at me wrong- literally.
All I wanted to do was get to GM and tell myself I was good at something after starting from the absolute bottom, but while putting all my energy into this game, it sucked the life out of me and didn’t give anything back but a Master icon that I didn’t have the strength to try and keep.
Neither my friends nor I can even look at this game the same way. It really drains people, apparently.

I’m sorry you had to go through something like that, too.

I suppose the one thing this game knows how to do right is keep people in- for better, or for worse.

Find another game to play alongside/instead of Overwatch. Maybe that one will treat you better.

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I met some good people through a swtor guild and we’re all friends still years later. We’re playing Elder Scrolls Online right now, along with some DnD every weekend. It’s a change of pace really, but I feel a lot better playing it.

Thank you, I hope you’ve found a good place as well.

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Whatever works for you- and thank you.
I spent a lot of my time playing this game, but now that I can’t play it competitively anymore, I’ve gone to survival co-op games instead. Like you, it’s a change of pace, but it helps.
I’ve also been playing a lot of League- ironically, it’s notoriously toxic but I always have fun when I play it, and I’ve never gotten as bad as I have with Overwatch when it comes to the “Tilt-O-Meter.” That’s a good sign, I hope. :slightly_smiling_face:

Obligatory “sorry you had to go through that.” It’s genuine, I’m just not creative enough to think of a different way of saying it.

I don’t experience a whole lot of toxicity in Overwatch, but I’ve faced stuff irl that stirred up some very ill-advised thoughts in me, so I can kind of relate. It’s a shame that people are afraid to use voice chat because of stuff like this. It really is the most useful tool in game.

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Many people will resonate with your sentiment - unfortunately.

I am a female too.

I’m not really sensitive as I’ve been on the internet and playing online games since forever.

I’ve had guys friend me just for the fact I was female - flirt with me, be nice to me and make excuses for me.

I’ve been called a stupid e-girl, [Removed] and etc. None of it really phases me, I’m not playing this game to prove anything to anyone, I’m playing it out of my will and entertainment.

I’ve had players pit me against other female players on this game too - treating everything as a competition.

I’d suggest pulling time away from the game, play something else until you feel the energy to invest time into this game again.

I’ve recently got a new account - not to smurf or anything, but it felt refreshing to start fresh, to feel like I can experiment or to no longer be held on a pedestal just because I have hours on X, Y and Z.

Though, making my post more personal to you. My boyfriend is a pro for Overwatch, even being a pro doesn’t make the experience anymore fun. He’s very burned out, even hates the games and wants to drop out of it. Sometimes when we play comp, i like to jokingly tell people that he does Overwatch professionally, and they will swarm him but will also be the first to start insulting if he doesn’t live up to their expectations or can’t single handedly carry the game.

It never gets easier or more numb.

Play the game for yourself, don’t let others be a distraction. If you want to climb, then do it, keep climbing. At the end of the day, every player you run into is temporary. You’re not doing this for validation, and you should most definitely be proud of yourself for getting into diamond.

Forum Moderator Note: Removed inappropriate language. Even when referencing and not using the language towards someone, inappropriate language is still against the rules.

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Sometimes I wish this wasn’t my username but honestly I like it and I have more good experiences than bad while playing support because in gold nobody uses comms anyways :,)

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I had intended on just commenting “Another OW is toxic post” or something to that regard. Skipped past the first post and the first comment made me read the original comment in full. Post was pretty much exactly what I was expecting.

Just another OW is Toxic Post.

Your experience of it is your own and will be driven around how you represent yourself (via gamertag, who you play and how you sound on the mic) as well as who you play with (mostly an element that you cannot control without pre-planning the group before starting to play). Everyone runs into these toxic players who like to talk ish, but can’t handle being talked ish to.

I’ve had my own experience and have, at times, stopped playing for extended periods of time so that I can focus on other things that are important to me before I try my hand in the garbage disposal that is the Solo Queue of Overwatch again. I can’t say my experience is like yours, being a guy, but I can’t say it’s not been a toxic slushfest at times either.

How you handle the ish is up to you. Some of us ignore it, some of us invite it, some of us try to prevent or avoid it. However you handle it, you will run into it. Even if everyone properly used the report system today and action was taken to all of those incidents tomorrow, the next day - there would be more toxicity In OW. Why? Because people play this video game. And people generally suck. Not in the manner that they’re bad at video games, not specifically anyway, but in the manner that they have bad attitudes and will act - or say - something stupid because they think it is funny or that someone else is deserving of their ire.

There’s not a lot the developers nor the community can do to make people not suck. All we can do is choose how we handle it. You can keep playing, keeping the comms open and hoping for better in solo queue. You can mute the chat and play in solitude with your team (idk how that works). You can lfg with randoms in hopes that their group will not have a toxic member. You can also find a group of like-minded gamers in advance through forums/discord/reddit and queue with people you like (highly recommend this option). You also have the option to uninstall.

Whatever you do. Just try to enjoy your life as you live it. If this game brings you joy, keep playing. But if it doesn’t, then don’t play it. After Anniversary is done, I know I’m going to take another break from the game and try out more of the other new titles from this year and others that I haven’t gotten around to playing. Don’t feel obligated to play something if or when it isn’t enjoyable. Only play it when you feel you want to.

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Damn, I hate stuff like this. Why do people have to be such jerks? Huh, quitting might have been the healthiest thing you could have done there. Wherever you go, just keep your chin up and good luck

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Guy: bes respectful to another player who happens to be a girl

Everyone else with one braincell: “SIMP, WHITEKNIGHT, or whatever”

Girl: Dares open her mouth to communicate like EVERYONE ELSE

Same dumb crowd: “OMG E THOT”

Like how do parents mess up this badly?

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