this is ow. this is the team balance
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Can you point to ANY stats that show he is busted? He is 3rd of 4th picked tank in all ranks except masters where he is 1st. But his winrate is 5th or worse amongst tanks.
He is picked because he is fun, not because he is winning. That is not the definition of busted. It is the definition of a tank that is keeping people tanking when all around is misery. āFixā hog so he is no longer viable and watch even more people stop playing tank. Great idea.
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Being Masters in First place automatically says heās busted. Bro, literally ever streamer which includes top 10 players are saying its a travesty heās in that position compared to say a tank like Zarya. RH is best when heās a low skill, one-trick kit to get players to tank up through say mid-tiers. HIs pick-rate in GM puts him essentially almost equally in the top 4 and heās number two in Diamond and Plat. Ridiculous.
- Enemies now generate 25% less Ultimate Charge from damage dealt to Roadhog
This change above needs to be reverted, it was ridiculous as it was something that made Hog stay in position more. Combined with Breather he just has too much freedom to move around in ways a tank should not, esp. one with a one-shot combo.
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Hog isnt busted. He is good but oppressive to go against. Characters like doom sym mei and sombra are all oppressive so not fun to play against so they seem ābustedā when played well. As an ex zarya main just buff rein zar and lucio and then hog wont be played as much ( or double shield ). #MakeRushGreatAgain.
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Is this a post from 2016?
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Is Hog busted though? Iād rather him be good than trash
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Shorten his hook range.
Thereās being out of position and being punished for it, and then theres being hooked from halfway across the map when you are in no way out of position
15m hook range please. Maybe hog will actually have to risk himself by getting close to the enemy if he wants to get a 1 shot, rather than sitting back and sniping people off the point
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They should make it so he canāt move while using Breather again. This way a Hog has to think about when itās safe to use instead of a āteehee Iām running away and you canāt kill me nowā button where he only has to worry about stuns and anti (which doesnāt block the 50% damage resistance btw).
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But Hog is already abused at range, his hook is his way to fight back 
His hook is to punish people out of position, i dont consider being 20m away from him out of position
There arw so many times ive been hooked by hog when i am perfectly positioned but his range is obscene
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Folks like Samito, Flats, SVB, etc. all would disagree with you on this question.
Exactly, 1000% true. A design which purports to punish players out of position but in turn allows that kit to be out of position is contradictory in design.
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he is #4 in gm, with 5 rein, and 6 orisa both still having a 3.5% PR and 54% WR.
its really hard to say that any tank is busted atm, this might be the healthiest tank meta ive ever seen.
who cares about non gm streamers to begin with, and gm streamers just dont like getting 1 shot, but they refuse to SAY that. they just say āim just sick of widow metaā ādoom every gameā āits just sad that hog is in that spotā
getting value out of hog outside of hook takes way more skill than zarya. one of the hardest to use alt fires in the game except for spamming shields, and that shield spam is probably the real reason he has made it to a #4.
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You are talking like he somehow shouldnāt be allowed to be near the top 4 aka the average tank pick rate which is simply crazy.
Instead of lying and saying he is broken why not just be honest and say āI donāt want him as a viable pick,ā because if by your estimation 5th is too high that doesnāt leave much room to fall before being non viable.
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Iād agree if it wasnāt that the top 4 in masters are within 1-2% of each other in pick rate. Hog is not standing out there - he is only just 1st. The diversity of tanks in masters looks much healthier than it usually does.
If Zarya was top pick and only 1-2% ahead of the next 3 picks would people be creating āIāve had enough of Zaryaā topics? Probably not. Hog is annoying to play against but no stats show him as broken. His pick-rate in masters is 16% which is far from āevery gameā as people keep saying. Rein at 23-30% in most ranks is much closer to āevery gameā.
Masters shows that most tanks are currently viable (even if not fun to play as a role just now).
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Hog is completely fine. Itās overnerfing Zarya, Orisa and Rein that made him popular since heās great against the rest of the tanks especially if a Zen orbs them immediately when they get hooked in or Ana just antinades them
What also highlightās Hogās viability, probably even more than that, is DPS dominance within the game. Remember when the meta was playing Mercy/Zen/Ashe + another ranged DPS and everyone, including the main tanks, kept exploding and the team with the first 1-2 picks just won the teamfight almost always? Thatās when Hog/Zarya was meta because there was no reason to play other tanks since they would just die while this tank duo gave even more pick potential, pick deny potential and countered most dive comps by denying a squishy from exploding to focus fire and instead changing it to someone getting traded by the Hook combo
Thatās where we are right now too. DPS is the strongest role and supports are the second most strongest role in the game (you only consider the top picks of these roles for this, obviously). This automatically promotes Hog a lot which is what puts him at a position where heās automatically meta viable, even though heās not that strong of a tank
So no, they canāt nerf him because heās not a good tank to begin with and synergies have never been a reason why they would nerf a hero with pretty much the only exception being GOATS comps
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Hog is so bad tho
North American players are simply bad and canāt deal with him
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you mispelled āāsoldier76āā aka known as bastion 76
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S76 is a whole different problem - you could probably even use stats to show he is broken, or at least overtuned. Not so with Hog.
Players who complain either have never played him before or are DPS mains who want the game to be like CoD and run around freely unpunished.
In fact, DPS are way more oppressive than him because they can hurt you non-stop from unreachable spot and use their escape abilities to make themselves harder to kill.
Whereas a fat Pig with no mobility will be a liability to his team for every 8 second, 16 if he misses the hook. He is literally a sitting duck and feed ults to the enemy team for 8 second. To make it clear for you, he is completely useless when heās on CD so thatās why I believe he wonāt be nerfed to the ground again.
So, use that advantage while heās on CD. Donāt run around solo like youāre playing Counter Strike. You deserve to be punished if you do.
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in fact I was telling hog is fine, hell we have ana who make him unplayable, soldier instead is broken as hell
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