one thing i dislike is that people assume DPS players are good at every hero
also, mccree is genuinely one of the most boring heroes for me to play at this point, hes been a must pick for so long just because hes able to punch through sustain
Made an updated version at ~10m. Moira aimbox is still very noticeably bigger. Reducing it a little she can still function as a Genji counter without being too easy and allowing more counterplay.
Thanks for the suggestion. I should have covered this before.
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The topic has been spammed nearly everyday in the forums. Entirely justified spam flag imo
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This didnāt feel like a bait thread to me. The user has only 16 posts so they probably didnāt know calling it autoaim was not only incorrect but also didnāt know the history that word has here related to Moira lol.
its not justified though, its people voicing an opinion, its what the forums are for
multiple people having the same opinion just highlights it as an actual issue
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Fair enough
Still, people here wont see it that way considering its been posted a lot 
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people just flag things that go against their opinions or anything targeting their mains, it has nothing to do with the topic being repeated
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Why would a cheater play Moira though. Isnāt Widow or Mccree better?
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Itās very much whatās being discussed, particularly when people spam trolling posts.
True.
If you look back on my comments, I tried explaining my point of view from a risk:effort:value perspecitve with gameplay examples and a whole lot of verbose to make a substantial argument. However, I made the mistake of calling it an autolock.
So my entire argument got dismissed because of terminology. I mentioned my points remain the same no matter what term I used and even after admitting (and apologizing) for using the wrong term, āit didnāt matter what my argument isā because
- I used the term autolock
- I must be a bad dps (even though I offered gameplay footage to have them judge)
- And this is pricelessā¦I am not plat and above.
Its disappointing to see actual arguments (which I make to understand the design choices in this game) get dismissed because of one liners and generalized statements like ābad dpsā, ālearn to aimā, āits not autolockā etc. Instead of looking at evidence and evaluating that against an agreed upon definition of what ābalanceā is
The only valid responses that make sense is that the design was made to counter certain characters, which begs the questionā¦do those mechanics still remain balanced outside of dealing with those certain characters?
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Ahem.
No itās quite literally a bait thread. Like, they created it to start an argument.
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The thread was already hidden onceā¦ Why cant it stay that way?
Ohwell, im just gonna keep my popcorns & 
emojis close to me if theyāre gonna be needed.
because its a legitimate topic lol
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I wonder how many spam topics claiming to nerf Genji during dive you flagged. I have the impression he is getting flagged for what he is saying rather than bc of the post being spam.
If you happened to flag OPās post bc of spam rather than bc of what he is saying Iāll take your word for it, doesnt mean that everyone flagging him isndoing so fornthat specific reason.
There are tons of threads claiming not to nerf her and that she is fine getting no flags at all. Did you also flag those? Genuenly curious.
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If you want her aim to be less forgiving, youād have to nerf hyper mobility heroes.
Why? Cant hit them unless you have a crutch?
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This is technically trueā¦but her hitboxes are so forgiving that in practice she may as well just have lock on really so he does have a point.
Iāll just leave this here.
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I think her healing orb should have been the same as it was pre-patch and her damage orb should be reworked. while I wish i could keep her low aim requirement because I canāt aim for sheisse, I do understand itās better for game balance if she has tighter hitboxes. but i think if her aim is tightened up really severely, she should gain more of her healing resource regenerated on damage. but not a huge amount. just enough that a moira with bad aim and a moira with good aim would be noticeable.
Even though I play Moira, after the today Patch Notes I understand 1 thinkā¦ youā¦ all of us need to just let it goā¦ It does not matter if I agree with auto-aim or notā¦ the community was asking for that and many more things for other heroes for mooooooonths! and we get nothingā¦it does not worth anymoreā¦ they dont listen the feedback, they dont care for the feedback. Biggest example the moiraā¦ NOBODY asked or suggested that changeā¦ it was a completly random changeā¦