So today I decided to peruse the support heroes stats on overbuff trying to analyze the data to form an educated opinion on the state of balance. I was shocked to find that Moira does the second most damage among supports.
I was shocked because I keep seeing people say Moira has “lowes deeps in the gaem”
Zenyatta is unsurprisingly the number one in damage output, but is not far ahead of the pack. In GM he only does about 10% more damage than Moira whereas Moira does over 20% more damage than the third guy, Lucio.
Remember, Lucio and Zenyatta don’t have to cut off healing to do damage, Moira does. Zen and Lucio are constantly attacking, YET, Zen only does a little bit more damage than Moira and Lucio a lot less.
Also remember, Zenyatta and Lucio cannot match Moira’s healing in their Wildest Dreams. In GM she heals 70% more than Lucio and over 110% more than Zenyatta.
Something is CLEARLY imbalanced about Moira here. This epidemic occurs from bronze to gm. Moira is always the first in healing output and second in dmg output.
I think her damage needs to be nerfed down to a level that’s lower than Lucio’s. Let’s start with reducing m2 damage to 40 dps and Orb to 25 dps, with a cap of 75 damage per enemy hero.
How is it that Moira having “lowes deeps in the gaem” and “easy to dodge balls” can still output nearly as much damage as Zenyatta, who can 2-shot any squishies in the game?
It’s because she has very high self sustain. That means she can afford to spend more time close enough to the enemy team to heal and deal damage than Zen or Lucio can. Its the same reason that Tanks sometimes take over the Gold Damage medal.
Also I would like to remind you that Moira does not have anything even remotely resembling utility like Discord or Speed.
Sometimes we gotta take a step back and look at the big picture rather than point out our anecdotal experience -which I admit is important but doesn’t truly explain the underlying causes.
It’s really the meta that’s driving these statistics not her balance. The double shield meta and everyone clustered together means damage orbs do more damage even through you’re not technically doing any meaningful damage (it inflates her statistics). She’s also one of the few that can heal consistently through the shields.
Zen’s discord was nerfed and he also can’t damage through shields so we can’t expect his damage output to be great atm.
She has always healed more than those heroes you mention (nothing new) and this has been amplified with the current meta. Nobody complained back then as she had zero utility to offer, and this becomes more prevalent the higher ELO you go.
Since dive was buffed and if dive makes a comeback she will be used less anyways.
You have to dps to heal because your primary source of healing is on a resource meter and is replenished by damaging someone. If you are outputting a lot of heals then you in turn have to dps to get more resource back.
For example my dps is usually about 2k less than my healing output when I play moira because am forced to dps to continue healing.
Exactly. How many threads were there about her being “useless trash” and a throw pick a month+ ago because she had no utility and her damage is quite low? Cause I recall seeing quite a few of those.
That feel when Moira needs to do damage in order to heal
That feel when Moira has actually had this stat for a very long time but no-one cared
Like you can even check back 6+ months ago, Moira was always dishing out the second most damage of the supports
This is not new or a sudden “OMG SO POWERFUL” she has always done trash damage. Her solokill % is not only on the low side of the supports, it’s one of the lowest in the game