Her utility was damage and coutering heroes like genji.
Now she feels very out of place. She can’t be agressive like she was anymore.
Let a new hero get this ability as an ult or something. Moira is great the way she is in ow1.
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dont know why but i get the feeling that a salty genji playing dev passed this patch on purpose out of spite
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I don’t think you are that far from wrong.
The supports are not queuing for OW2, it isn’t fun being flanker food. Blizzard needs the supports to queue, so, they make Moira better at dealing with flankers.
It doesn’t need them to be salty, but all it takes is for them to worry about the queues on release day.
I think that is why Moira was changed. They can see a way to make her better vs Sombra / Genji, which are your mid ranked flankers, and give her the utility people keep asking for.
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All moira needed was less succc and more consistency for her healing.
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No she didn’t, more like a HoT change and that’s it
you want her to do less damage in OW2 where it’s more aggressive
oh wait… the OW2 balance team already made ur dream come true
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Uh, guys.
She makes nano + blade / visor less effective.
That alone is a huge buff, since most of the fights revolve around that.
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If she lands it… and they don’t run / jump out of the way lol
Also ana can easily bait it with nano boost + then genji can blade after the moira effect is over and will still have 4 secs of nano left, an Ana main already mentioned about it
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It’s an AOE ability with a 3 m, equivalent to Junkrat mines (And I tossed enough mines to a nanogenji enough to know that’s doable.) and it’ll work even if it’s a small tag.
That’s still 4 seconds wasted on Nano which is usually the most important part of waiting out a nano-blade. NVM on Nano-visor. Trading an ult for a support skill is an amazing deal.
Dear lord, how is this a nerf.
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Where did I say it was a nerf? Every thread i’ve been talking about how it’s OP and it’s gonna get her nerfed more bye
I was just saying how u can easily get around it by baiting with nano boost, which ana players with big brain have been doing 
Why would you be playing Moira into S76 anyway? he’s one of the strongest DPS against her lol
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You do know that Moira can just…wait right?
Nano for bait, and then Moira just waits.
Genji keeps fighting but holds onto blade.
Moira just waits.
Nano goes out. Genji blades.
Moira tosses debuff.
Like…the ball is in Moira hands completely.
And there’s a good reason to play into Nano-visor now, since if she debuff soldier, she can just outlast him enough while others can smack him. NVM debuff also makes nano-visor much weaker.
I always thought of her survivability as her utility. Sure, Mercy and Lucio can be very slippery but Moira was the one that utilized that for the best value, IMO.
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Moira is a bad pick vs S76 do I need to repeat
also quit defending making supports passive, when we have an aggressive game coming up in 3 months.
Moira was aggressive in OW1 = passive slow game
Moira passive in ow2 = fast aggressive game
Either you don’t play Moira or you play her like a healbot
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This is something blizzard has been doing for ages; Removing abilities instead of balancing them, completely replacing them with something else, and upsetting the players who enjoyed those abilities. Could have been a new hero with this ability…
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And debuff craps on Soldier now, do I have to repeat?
You also get a heal orb on separate CD, so you can rush him, debuff, and keep that same heal advantage even if he heals himself.
Ok? and the debuff can do that to literally every other DPS and it has 16 second CD
non moira player trying to explain moira to me just stop
What u gonna do all game to S76? put your orb on him every 16 seconds? then every 12 seconds he’s owning u? lol what logic is this
That’s like Ana saying they are getting owned by Doomfist all game and refuse to switch do u say “just sleep them bro it’s ok”
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I have little experience in Moira and yet even I can still see the massive advantage. Match ups that wasn’t doable before is doable now. Put an orb, go in, do damage, and keep ensuring that he can’t effectively DPS due to Moira now able to out last him.
Jesus, no wonder people slags Moira players so unfairly.
the advantage vs S76? it’s 4 seconds every 16 seconds, and you want us to play against a hero that is strong against us when we could just play on Ana lol
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Yes?
4 seconds of non damage is you able to keep chasing and doing damage since Moira own normal damage isn’t that weak either.
Ok and i can go Ana and sleep S76 and he’ll be doing 0% instead of 25% damage lol and won’t be countering me when he’s not got the effect for 4 seconds lol
I don’t get what u don’t understand about a hero countering you, just because u stopped them for 4 seconds, doesn’t mean they ain’t gonna counter you after 4 seconds is done, plus he can easily run away from the orb, AND he has a self healing too so even if i tried to attack him he can just counter by healing himself lol
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There is still time for my 1211 idea 
where there is a flex pool of heroes, mostly off-roles hybrid utility types. A pool you can move heroes in/out of to control the meta representation, without ruining the micro balance.
For me it was just seeing her do so well in the scoreboard. Chasing everything down, killing it without really aiming for it. Compared to missing 18 shots in a row as genji or hanzo or mei then getting close to the JQ and being deleted by her + random 1shot hitscan meta. Or you manage to escape and die to RNG orb bounce. She tags you briefly and you are forced to delay your engage. Or are forced to spend evade cooldowns, or run to healthpacks (giving up a ton of payload progress), because you paid the “moira tax” being clipped by some rogue orb, making your 200hp hero now a 150hp hero - no way to start/engage a team fight or side flank interaction.
why not same damage but harder aim requirements and/or less orb RNG? That would bring her in line, instead of having some of the best damage, k/d, and healing - overall value just too good. And we’re talking about day1 moira players tbag that 150hp duelist with 100hrs on their squishy
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