I’m not talking about eliminations, I’m talking about damage. Moira can get damage medals relatively easily if she really tries. Obviously she shouldn’t be doing that, the point is that she does in fact have damage-dealing potential.
Read the rest of the post.
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In all of what you said, nothing addresses the fact that Moiras do indeed get medals in damage.
I’m a one trick Moira who plays here at a low GM level even though I’m in High Masters. I counter Genji all the time since I’m experienced with taking him down and tracking him. He’s easy to kill and usually they will switch off or they throwing. But it a free win for me as long as I focus him.
Sorry to say it but console is way different from PC. I come from console and i used to hate Ana because people were braindead with her because the lack of aim, that why Moira is powerful on console. But on PC she stops getting value at low plat/ high gold, her kit is awful.
Etson… Moira is still fine up until GM. Seriously. She has the highest PC winrate of any main support until GM. You are blaming bad Moiras and then putting them all into the same bucket.
I can’t think of many heroes Moira can bully harder than a Genji. And simply saying “if she has gold damage she isn’t doing her job” is just jumping to a conclusion. I’ve had multiple games at Masters where i had 20k+ healing and gold damage…
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If you had two healers that each did 15k, healing wasn’t the reason you lost that game. Need to look at the tanks and DPS in that scenario my friend.
This line alone tells me you know absolutely nothing. She hardcounters Genji, and it’s incredibly difficult to fight her with lucio, tracer, symm, DVA, and a few other heroes.
Dva is actually one of Moira’s counters. Eating the ball is eliminates half her value with a click of a button.
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Lmao Moira countering DVA wtf. She hardcounters Genji in silver elo lol.
On console lol overbuff says you are a low gold player. I watch high level streams and there seem to be like 3 Moiras on GM. I play in diamond and most of times people ask the Moira to switch, i mean why would someone go Moira, if you have a genji, a sombra a widow and a hammond in your team?
The issue with Moira is that she heals A LOT and has good survivability, BUT Ana completely shuts down her healing so no one cares about her heals or survivability. playing Moira into Ana is basically throwing against any semi competent Ana.
Mercy has the issue of not having enough healing to keep people up as a main healer, but no defensive ult for an off healer. So playing Mercy as an off healer is only viable if your team has other ways of dealing with enemy ults. Just for example if the enemy is running Soldier Ashe and you have Ana and Rein you can counter Bob with sleep and visor with Rein shield, so a defensive ult isnt really a requirement. but stuff like grav dragon, nano blade etc. require a defensive ult 99% of the time.
They both need some work.
I’m talking about PC. I have never played on console.
My Profile has been private ever since Bliz implemented that change… Overbuff can’t see my stats or my rank, which currently on this account is 3200. I can see that you play Ana in Diamond (barely). At your rank (being honest High plat, not a Diamond player… at this stage. Stats wise you are not far off) Moira has a higher win rate than Ana does. Hell even in Dia Moira has a higher winrate. For the last time stop looking at GM the play style and and meta is completely different to any other rank. If you were a Gm then you’d have a point. But you are not.
Funnily enough, statistically you are a better tank than you are healer.
It seems you are just being stubborn for the sake of being stubborn. And ill say it again:
If you had two healers each doing 15k healing, then having a Moira heal wasn’t the problem. Your problem was tank or DPS related.
Why don’t you use the same logic with all healers? Because the logic you use for Moira applies to all of them. Perhaps because you have a massive anti-moira bias?
A dead healer is a useless healer. 
Moira is MUCH harder to kill than Ana. Don’t under weigh survive ability, especially at the lower ranks. At the lower ranks none of the Tanks or DPS will protect you. To counter what i am saying at the lower ranks people are less likely to aim the healers properly. Shrugs
TL;DR
“A dead healer is a useless healer”
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Because the other healers have abilities other than meme dps not countered by nade.
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And yet everybody on the forums complains that her dps is so high she kills everything and everyone and always has 5 gold medals. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.
This feels more like a rant about having two main healers instead of a main healer and off healer lol
I’ve never seen anyone advocate that dps moira was good, except for dps moiras.
No, because other healers dont have all their power dropped into their healing like Moira does. I play Moira, I have 0 anti moira bias what ever that is supposed to be. And as a Moira player I am more than aware that playing Moira into a semi competent Ana is effectively throwing because Moiras insane healing is her primary ultility for the team and Ana shuts it down. Its also why I play Ana against Moira when we are struggling to push through the heal. It aint rocket science. Its also why Moira got pushed out of goats after Ana became a thing again, Moira goats is too easily countered by Ana goats.
Not sure I understand the point of this comment. The OP (to whom I was replying to) clearly states that Moira might work in silver but becomes useless the higher you go. And the part of my comment you quoted ends in this:
It implies the Ana has some idea what shes doing, not the random fiestas in low ranks. No one is claiming Moira is bad in low ranks.
At some point Moiras personal survivability means nothing because a healer that can stay alive but cant keep the team alive is meaningless. If your team gets for example grav dragoned no one cares that Moira can fade out of grav, if anything youre probably just staggering yourself making regrouping take longer. No one cares youre not dying when your tanks got anti naded and now are dead, cause you have nothing to help them with except raw heals, and your healing is getting shut down hard.
yes survivability is important on a healer, but so is recognizing that YOU as the healer not dying while you cant keep anyone else alive isnt useful and isnt going to win you the game.
I am apparently not allowed to quote you in my comment cause of the last 4 letters on your IGN. Would recommend changing it.
I play Moira and all supports at a high elo rofl. Yall are exaggerating so much.
Eh what? Ana is stuffed in this situation as well… You are making zero sense dude.
It’s up to Zen/lucio to sort that out. Gravs don’t always grab the entire team either. I’ve won countless teamfighter after fading from a grav. Considering how low HP supports have, a Moira getting out and healing is a huge advantage. Ana falls apart if she gets in that grav. You are also ignoring the fact you can then use shields to stop the Ana anti heal.
Again you are severely underestimating her healing ability.
Actually scratch that.
You are severely underestimating her entire kit. The only real impact on Moira that has arguably dropped her from a T1 to a T2 healer is she can no longer heal through barriers. That’s it.
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