as in they are very good in every situation.
If that were true, why do I die more with Kiri and Juno than with Zen and Lucio?
Skill.
20 characters
So then, Zen and Lucio are better choices because they require less skill to use and provide better results right?
If that helps you to think that and get results. You fly free.
I just don’t get what makes those three better than the two I use, if I preform better not using them.
I’ve out healed a Kiri playing Lucio before and my Tranquility is better at saving lives than bap. Only one of the three can beat me and thats cuz Juno gives mobility boosting rings (sure Lucio has the speed boosting effect but I’m not big on using it)
Because you are thinking about individual player performance not hero kit.
Easy mistake to make.
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Speed wouldn’t be so strong if ttk wasn’t so low and more characters had more access to more mobility independently. But people don’t want the burst damage characters nerfed or some of the tank’s damage aspect (in return for something else), or the healing nerfed.
The people who are still garbage and already can’t kill anything are calling the damage role cosmetic so they would never be able to kill anything and continue to blame everything but their own lack of skill.
This community doesn’t want this game to be fixed. The vast majority just want their favorite characters to be strong, require little effort, and have few counters while the characters they don’t like are weak, require a lot of effort to do anything, and be countered extremely easily.
When you’re still forced onto Lucio because the other support took Juno.
Zen and lucio’s kits are fine? There was no need to mention them. Yeah I don’t often use the speed mode Lucio has, but wall riding healing and boosting are extremely useful. It’s a bit stressful to know the proper moment to use the knock back, but if they aren’t focused on you it can be helpful for your team.
And Zen’s kit makes him as useful as he is. So many tanks torn down from discord. (If you have an ana on your team the effect is even better)
why would you run both though?
For fun? People still run things like Lucio/Brig, just because they like the heroes.
Are we not supposed to pick the heros we like anymore? Why even play the game at that point.
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right… but how is that relevant to the conversation though?
You asked why people would run Lucio/Juno.
Juno isn’t good against dive unless she gets dedicated peel. She just dies and doesn’t have the damage to trade.
yeah because I assumed that you said something that was relevant. I guess I was wrong.
what has this comment got to do with the conversation? its a balance discussion, you cant take people with no hero pool into consideration when talking about balance.
It was supposed to be a joke, which was clearly lost on you.
You can’t joke here. One of the terms when you sign up is that you can show no signs of a sense of humour. Or any logic.
(my point proven below)
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this is incorrect
no such rules or terms exist for this forum
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