While she’s still easy to beat in the 1v1 despite S9 making it much harder to win as flankers, that doesnt really bother me as much as this.
This character is so braindead, and so consistent. I hate seeing this little gremlin stat generator, ending 10 minute games with 10k damage and 13k healing.
Just straight up no support should ever be able to do those kind of numbers without going INSANE in that game, but no thats just a pretty normal Moira game. With the gold standard stats for both heal and damage being 1k a minute, having a character that just does both is crazy to me. These players arent good, they dont deserve to so heavily outperform their fellow supports.
I despise her consistency and ability to just ignore the fact that dealing damage means not healing, but with Orb and her heal over time on M1 this character is allowed to suck people with VERY forgiving aim requirements.
Her only upside in my eyes is she just doesnt have utterly game changing abilities like Bionade or Lamp.
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Having big numbers doesn’t mean they were meaningful.
You can throw out constant damage orbs doing 10 damage to each person and have it instantly outhealed but adds +200 damage to your stats and +10% ult charge to enemy supports.
You can shoot Orisa 24/7 as Soldier and rack up 20k damage but similarly have nothing to show for it.
You can have 750 damage as Widowmaker and have killed 3 people.
Stats without context mean nothing. She is complete and utter rubbish.
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Scoreboard doesn’t tell that much about who over performs.
If that moira has 30 assists and less than 2 deaths, then they were pretty good.
But moira has no other utility than her tickle damage.
Many other supports can do other things, speed boosts, anti-heal, cleanse, immortality etc.
Moira has none of this. Just because 3 numbers on the board are high, tells you nothing about how the moira played.
If the moira plays well enough to enable their support buddy to make good use of their utility without having to worry about healing everyone or being jumped by flankers. Then that’s good.
Just remember that the numbers on the score board only tell half of the story.
A moira can have 20k and 20k numbers, but if they’re just clowning at the edge of the map, duelling someone repeatedly. Then they’re not out performing anyone despite the numbers.
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He meant 10k damage and 1,150 healing, and talking trash in party chat lol
I think that’s the downside. That and not being able to crit. I’ll trade those for consistency though
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Moira gets high stats because A) that’s all she has, numbers and survivability with zero utility, and B) like others have said you can easily get high spam damage out by chucking damage orbs into the enemy team off cooldown, to varying degrees of meaningful pressure.
She’s incredibly easy to pick up, don’t get me wrong, but her high numbers aren’t much of a problem when they’re all she has going for her and said numbers are applied slowly throughout a match. After all, if I’m caught in a Blizzard or whatever Hazard’s ult is called, I’d much rather have a Moira looking my way than a Widowmaker.
…it’s not that though… so…
Unless I misunderstand what you are trying to say
its like the opposite of people who think low numbers mean something. The only thing stats are good for is ult tracking. If you are using them for anything relating to impact on a game you don’t understand eithere a) the game b) the stats. Moira is literally the litmus test for the saying of stats not meaning anything. You throw an AOE orb in the middle of a pile stats are gonna happen, they aren’t exactly doing anything most of the time.
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Self heal from her beam, I assume.
Plat Support main here who has had those kinds of stats but definitely did more than just stare in one direction and hold the fire triggers.
Those stats mean nothing, I’ve had games where I went 19k heals and 12k damage, still lost. Every hero is going to have varying stats, one Lucio player might average 13k healing while another might average 7k damage. One Moira player might average 14k damage and 5k healing, another might average 15k healing and 4k damage.
Yes her ‘aim’ play is very lax in comparison to say Ana, Zen, Ashe, Widow, etc. She doesn’t have to be played like that meme where the guy is sweating while mass spamming keys. But I don’t feel like that makes any value she gives any less than say an Ana playing at the top of her game. Her value more so comes from pressuring those trying to get greedy instead of offering buffs/nerfs.
A good Moira can get the maximum effort through sheer skill in knowing how to play her at her best. But a bad Moira can get deleted just as quickly as any slept hero out in the open.
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The numbers don’t reflect what’s going on in game though. If you throw an orb into a group of players often enough, your stats will go up but that doesn’t mean you’ve done anything.
You can spend all game giving a tank The Succ, which will give you insane damage numbers, but they don’t mean you’ve meaningfully contributed.
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Is her RT a HOT? I didn’t think it was… That’s actually interesting if it is…
There’s a lingering heal after you stop spraying. I often hear that you want to tap the healing rather than hold it down to maximize your resource, though it is a bit slower (the HOT is at a lower rate than the actual mist). There was a point in OW1 where the HOT lasted for quite a while (I want to say 3-4 seconds), but it was brought down to the point where it’s hard to even notice unless you’re looking for it.
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Thanks mate! I’m learning new stuff about this game every day…
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The amount of Moira players who still hold down left click for a full 5 seconds thinking heals al their tank faster is nuts.
Frankly if you piss away enough resource to trigger the voiceline in almost any game, you’re bad.
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Wait, there’s a VOICE LINE for running out of piss?
There is a small HOT effect on her main heal, yes.
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Moira is a stat beast but nothing more. sure she has grest healing and dmg. in total. but the problem comes from lac of utilities and ability to come in clutch. think qboht how many times a target moira was healing still doed because she didn’t have a burst heal, or a way to keep them alive like bap or kiriko can.
and while her 1v1 ability is above average compared to the rest of the supports, as you go up in ranks other supports can out perform in 1v1s, think ana just needing 2 or 3 body shots then a nade in you general direction
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