I don’t care about being on fire. It’s the fact that everything about her kit is tedious and annoying.
Cast time - boring and tedious
movement speed nerf -annoying and boring.
50HP - boring, tedious and annoying.
Valkyrie -glorified spectator mode - incredibly boring and not engaging.
Almost every aspect of current Mercy is boring.
Hmm? Interesting hypothesis.
Because tempo ressing is better than letting your team die, then res de masse.
Can you suggest something that will make it so people won’t complain about there being no counterplay?
Yep.
Because it has a higher success rate than letting your team just die? A cast time will only be rubbish if your intention is to let your team die.
I’m not claiming I’m a mercy expert but i have 45 hours on her and shes my favorite healer to use and 3rd most played. And through all that play time the only thing i didnt like was that i could be carrying a team with massive amounts of healing and boosting every person’s ult charge with damage boost and not once get of fire for it. I’m not sure how she is currently cause I’m focusing my rein game atm but I enjoy valk I enjoy damage boosting my entire team and watching them go crazy on the enemy and I like her swing all over the map playstyle. Should my enjoyment be taken away at the expense of yours because you dont like it? That isnt fair at all and reworking her solid kit is pointless whe several other heros could use those resources more.
cast time with damage reduction would have been best
not invincibility that lead to the rework .
800 hours on her. My most played hero.
Weird, I actually felt like I was doing something even when I wasn’t on fire.
Smart move.
I don’t enjoy spectating my time dying because my heals are rubbish.
Unfortunately, I don’t enjoy always hiding behind something when in Valkyrie.
Should my enjoyment have been taken away at the expense of others finding my hero’s ultimate disheartening to play against?
The rework wasn’t fair.
Okay.
No, I can’t. Mass Resurrect is not a workable ability. Move on.
If you want Resurrect, it needs to be single target, cooldown, ultimate, whatever.
Nope.
And here we find the hilarious problem with this suggestion.
Don’t let your teammates die? You get the joke that is a 150hp heal after a 1.0s cast.
Let your teammates die? You die before you get your ability off.
Yes? Lol I even said that in my original comment. So the latest nerf was a revert to the old healing.
People want old Mercy back, but old Mercy was less mobile, slower, and had less healing per second (50), which is the healing we just got again.
Do we want a rework or a revert? If we get any major form of old Mercy back it’s not a rework, it’s a reversion at that point. Even if we tweaked Mass Resurrect to be fair, it’s still a revert. And Jeff said a revert isn’t going to happen.
So that leaves the only option of a rework on the table, which also won’t happen because Blizzard stated they like the way she looks right now.
Does that mean she will never be touched again? Absolutely not. She most likely will be looked at again (maybe). But the asking for a revert of any kind is out the door, unfortunately.
Because letting them die and then using Resurrect:
In contrast, using the ability as a burst heal while reviving only 2 players:
That is why you would use it as a burst heal rather than only a mass-rez.
Honey, I have list for you of examples to fix her old ult
-Get rid of vulnerability while ulting. (At least most of it)
-Give line of sight, (can’t rez trough walls etc)
-Maybe mark on the map area when she has ult and teammates are down what she can rez.
-Limit the number of tagrets what she can rez based around her healing.
-Her healing should be at least 55 per sec. NEVER. LESS. 60 per sec is best even it out heals Winston.
-Hammond counters mass rez very well
-Give valk as reqular ability?? Maybe then needs to be nerfs into heal.
-Tier system? Based on how much you heal that much you can rez for example.
Seen that post and laughed. What prove was it again? Oh yeah! Some random Mercy players claiming to know how to play Mercy. What else? Oh yeah, random tutorials of hiding spots…
If you can’t suggest anything, I’d suggest you take the counterplay or leave it rather than complaining about it.
Can we rip her wings off while we’re at it?
They claimed that she was OP before…
Pretty decent.
Thankfully, most do not let their teammates die.
That’s impressive AF my most played is tracer with 194
I did too I was just saying alot ov the mercy bashing and stuff would go away if mercy players had something to show their team in game and shut them up. Something to brag about like everyone else. It really helps the mood more than you think, for me at least it’s like the game is telling me.good job and nice play when I hit fire.
I know. Hes loads of fun and became meta right after I picked him up
Is there always a soldier or mcree ulting? Cause the only time I hide in valk.
Nope. And maybe not. But jeff has said several times it isnt coming back. Might as well adjust or move onto a different hero is all I’m saying cause I dont think its likely they are going to smash a kit with the kind of power potential hers has. It’s not a sym situation Where shes weak. It was a number tweak to make her fall in the right place that was needed.
nerf for her healing was wrong. Mercy is pure healer and literally uses her primary fire to heal. Rez is the probelm, it doesn’t belong to be a reqular ability and is the reason why she will remain must pick. I absolutly hate that and just want to bliz realise what they have done wrong, fix her and make her fun again.
No one wants op Mercy
It’s almost as if we just want mass Resurrect back. ![:thinking:](https://d74zh8edaijub.cloudfront.net/en/overwatch/images/emoji/twitter/thinking.png?v=5" ":thinking:")
Rework. Specifically, Titanium’s suggestion.
Thankfully, this is not true.
Tweaked Resurrect and a new e ability is not what you’d call a revert.
Yep.
They also said they won’t implement Deathmatch into Overwatch.
I most certainly did not ask for a revert (a mont ago, I did but then I changed my mind).
![:kissing_heart:](https://d74zh8edaijub.cloudfront.net/en/overwatch/images/emoji/twitter/kissing_heart.png?v=5" ":kissing_heart:")
Meh, I just cared about helping my team win the match.
Whenever any competent DPS shoots me. GM is extremely hard to play in.
They haven’t said mass ress won’t come back. ![:slight_smile:](https://d74zh8edaijub.cloudfront.net/en/overwatch/images/emoji/twitter/slight_smile.png?v=5" ":slight_smile:")
I’m not going to try and tell you a 5 man Resurrect is better than a 2 man. That shouldn’t be a serious discussion.
But let’s say you’re right. A 2 man Resurrect is better.
Why have a 5 man Resurrect in the game?
That question is why we have Mercy 2.0. Blizzard saw the Mass Resurrect paradox. Make a 5 man Resurrect valuable, (invuln on Resurrect) Mercy players are incentivized to hide. Make a 5 man Resureect useless, (LoS, cast time etc.) why have it in the game at all?
As for your unique suggestion, you’re right, the 150hp heal would probably be better because going for a decent Resurrect would just be suicide.
That doesn’t make a 150hp heal good though. It’s just a bad ultimate no matter how you use it.
We have Mercy 2.0 because Blizzard saw that Mass Resurrect was not salvageable. It didn’t work. Stop trying. It isn’t going to start working now.
A game mode is way different than a full-on hero change. I wouldn’t really compare the two.
The changes Mercy has gone through are annoying for literally everyone in this game, but none of this would of happened had they not implemented such a broken hero design to begin with. Mass Resurrect should of never been in the game originally, sadly. Had it never been in the game, none of this would be happening right now. Poor original design = a bunch of different renditions.
Mass Resurrect was either too powerful, or so weak it was useless.
It was poorly designed, and it is still, that’s why it is still the core problem for Mercy. Resurrect on cooldown is still annoying, for sure. But any sort of resurrection ability is always annoying. It’s near impossible to balance. Obviously.
That’s why lol I’m plat our hitscans cant shoot the broad side of barn.
Maybe not but they have also said they like her current kit and that they dont an to make significant changes to it which is kinda the same thing as saying no mass rez really. They are probably just scared to outright say it because it’s such a requested thing from mercy players.
because it was flexible
you had to make a tough choice whether to tempo rez or wait for a 4-5 man rez,as WHEN you rezzed ,you wont have it back for 1-2 minutes. This was the thrill of playing mercy,making tough choices. Assessing when using your ult was best
Sometimes i didnt even use it once in a match
Current rez is easy
Just use it when you can and get the timer going This stops snowballing and is very valuable and strong. If you die ,you’ll get it back for free anyway when returning from spawn.
This isn’t even true…
We’ve already established 5 man Resurrect isn’t a choice with those changes.
Again, it’s the Mass Resurrect paradox all over again.