Mercy Rez on Q, valk ability

I seen this in another thread a good while ago, but I really liked the idea of it and wondered if it would make people a bit more satisfied with the current state of her.

What if she had a faster charging ult (1 Rez, similar to tracer) and the Rez ability was replaced with A 5 second Valk?

I really like this idea, because it would make people feel a bit like “well Rez is an ultimate, my pick forced them to use it which is benificial”. It could potentially make it a little less frustrating to play against for DPS players?

It would also help to compensate for mercy’s increased GA time, and give her an option to heal more in clutch scenarios.

People will always find something to complain about with her, but do you guys think it would improve peoples views on her at all?

Mercy could have 1 bullet in her pistol, have an ult that sends her to spawn and people would still cry about her on this forum.

If rez was an ability unlocked during Valk, the default ability would have to be something good to compensate. And again with this forum, if that something is too good, there will be more QQ.

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I already have my resurrect button bound to ‘Q’, what are you talking about? :sweat_smile:

But all jokes aside now.

Tested that in experimental while back. Felt garbage to play as, and garbage to play against it…

No one (generally speaking) was happy

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Mercy’s rez is completely fine and doesn’t need any changes.

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I think so too, I personally would be happy if they never touched mercy again

I’m just tired of negative comments towards me because I play mercy lol

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That won’t stop… No matter what changes she goes through! Sorry.

And we have Blizzard to thank for that for endorsing it in the past!

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Until Mercy has to aim like a generic hitscan, that’s not gonna stop. The cod kids never leave Mercy players alone😞

If they make the swap they better give her something more inspiring than another mobility ability - she doesn’t need it and will likely result in them nerfing her GA more and there’s virtually no skill expression in it, which is something the character actually needs.

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Even then they will complain about her

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The only thing I agree on is making rez an ult as it was before.

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probably because it was mass rez with VERY harsh restrictions and valkyrie being too sluggish slow. overall though valkyrie’s power as an ability felt good, but it needed adjustments. if it was something like

  • 4 second duration
  • 15 second cooldown
  • AoE beam range reduced from 10 to 5 (or just take it away)
  • HPs increased from 60 to 75
  • movement speed during it is reduced from 9m/s to 8m/s
  • no beam breakage

it would be moreso balanced as an ability while still feeling fun to use as it’s not too slow. and rez being a solo target fast charging ultimate with no restrictions to it would make it feel so good. (also PLEASE make rez reset GA’s cooldown!!!)

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The fact that valk has free flight and aoe beams makes me absolutely not want it as an ability. The fun part of mercy is flying around and beam juggling. Why would I want to throw out that gameplay more often than I have to now?

The only way I’d prefer it if free flight + split beams were removed and the power was put into like, a cd that gives her a higher hps beam for a few seconds. But even then I’d prefer rez for the skill check it provides now.

eh, I use to be a bigger fan of it but as time has went on I’ve become less attached.

I think the more interesting thing to do with Mercy would be to rework her rez into another ability, since it ties down so much of her kit power, you have a lot of room to do interesting things with it. Though I understand its been apart of her kit since release and the community would probably hate it.

Those two are mutually exclusive.

Beam breakage on Valkyrie activation is there for a reason!

Tbh if they made Valk into an ability, I’d prefer if they just got rid of rez and give her a new ultimate.

I always saw Valkyrie as a tradeoff for rez - Valk is an underwhelming ultimate while rez can be a powerful ability on a cooldown. Having a free flight ability as compensation for the 3 second GA cooldown would be nice, but a single target rez for an ultimate feels like a hard nerf. It’d be better if they gave her an ult that helps keep the rest of her team alive instead.

Also, you’re never gonna win when it comes to people complaining about Mercy. Everyone from your run-of-the-mill plat players to Overwatch pros and casters have had the same bias against Mercy for the last 6 years, usually because she doesn’t need aim to have impact in a fight, and that makes them cranky.

Either that or they’re still fighting an imaginary war against the dreaded “e-girls,” who ruin their games by… checks notes Playing Mercy and enjoying the game. Nowadays they’ve dubbed that crowd as the “Mercy mafia.”

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though both was added when valkyrie was an ability in an ExC no?


February 10th 2022

Valkyrie

  • Is no longer an Ultimate ability
  • Is now Ability 2
  • Healing increased from 55 to 70 health per second
  • Caduceus Staff beams no longer attach to additional allies
  • Duration reduced from 15 to 3 seconds
  • Cooldown is now 20 seconds
  • Flying movement speed decreased from 7 to 6
  • Guardian Angel movement speed reduced from 25 to 20

Resurrect**

  • Is now an Ultimate ability
  • Can resurrect up to 5 people at once
  • Maximum range increased from 5 to 8 meters

its very much possible as its not a transformation ultimate anymore because its an ability, not an ultimate! common sense!

Yes, but it required manual breakage to update beam any way.

It’s not that “game has to break it when you activate Valkyrie”. It is “game cannot update beam value while it is attached, so game forces breakage to update it”

That is why she can retain 60hp/s heals outside of Valkyrie if she won’t switch targets.

That’s why 70hp/s on CD Valkyrie is not best idea.

Whaaaat

If you keep beam on target during the end of valk it continues the valk level of healing? That’s so cool I did not know that

Yes, you do.

Here:

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At this rate, it’s probably, honestly, safe to bring back Mass Resurrect as her ultimate. There’s already so much crap that can counter it anyway, so “hide and res” Mercy wouldn’t be able to exist anymore anyway.