Mercy needs a little help in 2-2-2

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Frankly, I agree OP. I was playing tank today, and whenever we had the Mercy + Lucio/Zen/Brigitte combo, it really did not feel like there was enough healing to keep people alive. We would just get mowed down unless my other tank (Sigma, ideally) was helping me carry our weight and then some.

She’s a decent off-healer, but I wouldn’t ever want a comp where she’s the main healer unless we’re running a bunch of heroes who can self-sustain pretty well (Hog, Mei, Soldier, Lucio, etc). Which is fine, I don’t mind if she’s an off-healer, though I would like that Blizzard either say that they’re happy with that or change her to act as a more-effective main healer, so people stop trying to main heal with her like it’s an adequate substitute for Moira/Baptiste/Ana.

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Hilarious? How so…?

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In the way that it actually made me audibly laugh out of how funny I found it.

Not in any nefarious or negative way. I just genuinely never thought of naming the queues that and it is funny to me.

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Ok, thats cool

That said, i have been referencing them as such for about a month now, so…?

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I agree she needs something

I love your name btw so quirky :smile:

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Really now?
I’ve been off and on with the forums lately. I actually made a note on how I haven’t seen many of your posts since 2/2/2 launched. I remembered you being against it so I thought maybe you quit! Clearly not though which is good to see

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Oh my god finally! Someone that doesn’t want that absurd 60hps buff which would make her broken! :smiley:
I’m definitely open for changes that aren’t like that!
I’m thinking reduce cooldown of rez when in valk IMO would be nice.

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I get a ton more healing now, but my survivability feels worse due to the abundance of CC, and the damage creep is ever more apparent. Mercy as a main healer cant keep up with the Junk Sigma McCree and fully charged Zarya. She has her beam on her allies, but it feels useless.

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More of my posts have been about Forced 222 of late…and false reporting

The Mercy turmoil seems to have momentarily subsided atm

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The problem isn’t that she isn’t working as a main healer but the concept of a main healer itself is incredibly flawed and as such characters don’t tend to fit in those, Ana for example is also not a Main healer, her pick value comes from key sleep darts and nades and her healing can double as damage if it finds an enemy in the way

So, the game would have a single main healer in Moira if the concept of off healer was a thing

Instead I like to separate supports by their general utility and mobility, Moira, Mercy and Lucio are mobile healers, Brig, Ana and Zen are more stationary, Bap is a middle ground. This is but one way to classify them though, there are many others that allow you to fit their value on the right comp but sadly, main and off isn’t particularly accurate

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She needs a point defence drone that fires at incoming missiles and nearby heroes. Simply too reliant on other heroes.

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With the current state she is in, she is definitely stronger as a off healer utilizing dmg boost and rez. Zen is a off healer as well and I don’t see a problem with him, I like when mercy is an off healer tbh

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Never stop calling it that. Makes me giddy every time I see it.

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Healing a tank with Mercy is like filling up your SUV’s gas tank and the gas pump is old and doesn’t work that well. :stuck_out_tongue:

They should have allowed her to shoot fireballs (or bullets if you’re American like me) out of her staff a long time ago. If you do some DPS you get a boost applied to your heals for a certain number of seconds afterward.

But what do I know? I’m an AI scrub. Back to my hole! :stuck_out_tongue:

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I checked OB bout an hour ago(?) her weekly stats are… pretty bad.

Lowest Support winrate in Bronze on xBone, typically bottom 3 Support winrate across all ranks and platforms.

The data’s unreliable, but it’s not painting a pretty picture for Mercy in 2/2/2.

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5th best pickrate across the ranks

6th best pickrate in GM

With positive winrates on both of those, why do you think she needs a buff?

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In many update videos, they titled her as a main healer.
Yet she struggles to run as a main healer and you will likely need a moira/ana/baptiste to run alongside her. Making her role more of a off-support.

Run Mercy instead instead of a lucio/zen/brig and you lack endurance or defensive ults/abilities.
Run Mercy instead of a moira/ana/baptiste and you lack burst healing which is borderline needed with all the burst damage in the game now. You also lack insane utility like sleep, immortality, nade. (rip moira- pls blizz, give her some love too), and also the ability to deal damage while healing.

TL;DR Valk is very much an offensive ult and insanely powerful. It’s like nano/coalescence/AmpMatrix in the sense it can be used to make a push or help prevent a push. It rarely if ever will save your team. The 60hps aoe can be killed through and you will fail if you try to use it as an ‘oh shoot’ ult when everyone is critical and the enemy is using ults.
She has a main healer ult. A main healer objective.
But she fails to keep tanks alive unlike other main healers.

Mercy has rez… and can revive the tanks she fails to heal. But tanks frontline. You cannot just rez that. It’s situational, especially depending on rank.
Mercy has damage boost. Single target and relies on your target hitting the enemy… IF they can. Strong, yes. But rarely usable with how slowly she heals and therefore also situational UNLESS you run another main healer. In that situation, you’re a utility support. AKA an off support.

Don’t kid yourself. She’s not ran for her healing. She is run for Rez and Dmg boost (mainly due to snipers mind you). Nerf her healing to 30hps and she would still have the same pickrate in high ranks due to rez and dmg boost.
Raise her healing to 60hps and ana will still rain supreme.

The higher in rank you go, the more important utility is over raw healing. This explains Moira too.

I just want clarity. Buff her healing and let me run her as a main healer with off-supports. Or. Nerf her healing, buff her utility (dmg boost maybe idk), or change her ult to a burst heal, again, idk but do something.

As it stands the idea is just to run her to hold a snipers hand and pray they outdo the enemy. If thats the idea, then make that her objective. If you want her to be a main healer, then let us be able to heal tanks.
Simple. Blizzard needs to pick one (imo) and make it official with number tweaking.

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Can confirm, anytime my support buddy goes Mercy I get really pessimistic

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Mercy is an offhealer as her heals are countered even by Moira’s grasp, that means if you heal a tank and a Moira is grasping that tank you’re essentially healing Moira and replenishing her reserves (so 55 hps would be just as useless). When Lucio is more effective at healing and have utility/damage at the same time is clear that Mercy is the bottom of supports.
Healing a tank with her feels like infinity because with other supports is either high burst heals or or you heal and damage/support your team while healing is in background.

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Can confirm, every time I have gold healing as Mercy, with second healer being Ana, Moira or Lucio, I really start doubting us winning that.

Mercy is neither off or main healer. Not enough healing for main healer, and no defensive ult for off healer. She isn’t hybrid either, so she is in weird spot.

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