From many different sources (Like Discord and stuff like that)
Seems like a big part of the community (on average) thinks that Resurrect Mercy was better.
Especially regarding the fact that the current Mercy is just a unbalanced mess which canât be fixed.
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Yup Im all for a 3.0 if its better of all of us, Mercy players included. The thread title is just really dramatic, especially since 1.0 is gone for good.
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mb its mercy players that voted yes to rez
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I think it can be. Fo sho!
I tried to make sure that as many different players vote on that as possible.
First 100 from Forum main page (Because i saw so many say that Mass Res was bad, i though i post it there). Then it went to places like Discordâs and such which i donât know much about.
Solely from the forum it was something like 65% for Mass Res.
Thatâs far to strong and still has the same issues as the current version.
In no circumstances is Valkyrie on Mercy balanceable. It still has the same issues and with E res itâs no longer Valkyrie, but Resurrect.
If you have some time, i explained it in that thread:
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When I saw you replied to me I expected a long post going through each and every one of my points (although this time my post wasnât all that long) 
This is a pleasant surprise. A Mercy main agreeing with MichaelC?!
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If those are the only options, put me down on a hard âNothingâ then please! 
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Please revert my queen, sheâs just broken </3
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Well. Nothing itâs going to have to be.
Youâre not getting your precious Mercy revert.
Yes, the rework hasnât been balanced properly so far, but the intent is in the right direction. Another thread said Mercys hide more these days than before, which is a load of nonsense. And even if it is true, itâs only because people have slightly more game sense and know to actually try and use cover. But I doubt that.
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Her original kit was an issue. Reworked kit is an issue. Mercy is an all around issue. #RemoveMercy
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I say just do another Rework. 3.0 Mercy would be far superior to 2.0 which we can all agree is a complete failure.
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my reply to #3
is simple, alot of proâs prefer mercys 5 man rez ult to what she is now. because no one likes rez
and in the pro scene mercy was rarely played as she was useless
to them, old mercy was a .001% pick. were as now shes a 100%, if you revert the same thing will happen but then normal players have to deal with the single most annoying ult in the game on a consistant basis within ladder play
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Iâm hearing a lot of Mercyâs rez was broken, and completely ruined gameplay because mercy could undue a lot of hard work.
But thatâs the thing a lot of support ults do undueâŚwell mitigate what happens to your team.
Ana can Nano boost giving extra damage and damage reduction, and with the recent buff 300 heath restored instantly,
Brigitte can provide armor to everyone around her giving extra heath
Lucio can provide a temporary 750 shield to everyone around him
Zens transcendence restores 300 heath per second for 6 seconds to all those around him
Moria can damage and heal at the same time in a beam for a while.
Mercy though? she can heal and damage boost everyone but 50hp per second doesnât mitigate really any thing any dps ult can wipe her team out.
Damage boost? is out preformed by Orisa supercharger
The only thing is her mobility but mostly it usually to stay high in the air supporting your team. but not really?
So I will say what I donât understand is Mercyâs rez, I mean it was powerful, it could bring back everyone on your team, and that was different because it didnât mitigate anything beside death it just brought people back all the other supports could mitigate to prevent death.
Mercy I will say is in a bit of a predicament here, but weâll have to see what the Overwatch team is going to do.
Yes, revert her so DPS can complain about her mass rez ruining their omglawl ults, bad enough people complain about how powerful she is (even though Mercy has been outhealed by Lucios and Moiras).
Season 6 30-rez-per-game Mercy wasnât âridiculously goodâ?
If you donât think there were people unhappy with invuln then youâre kind of living in your own world. It didnât solve any of the reasons why she was seen as inferior to Ana, instead doubling down on what she was already good at, removing all the risk to using it. It only served to make the ability more cancerous.
Current Mercy rezzes less than when she had Mass Rez, so. It just so happens that she has the ability available at more opportune moments.
Valk and bhop alone make her way more survivable than before pre-rework. She dies the least out of every healer because of these abilities, even less than Moira who is explicitly designed to require focus fire to kill.
The speed boost only became a thing after Valk was introduced. It was originally a bug that had really high reward but was hard to control. Because Mercy players liked it it became a bespoke feature of the hero with dumbed down mechanics compared to its original implementation.
Right, but at this point youâre not arguing against me, youâre arguing against both all the S3 Mercy players that begged for an E ability, and those whose ways to fix Mercy right now is to revert her kit but add an E that gives her something to do in the midfight.
Take this up with them. Iâm just the messenger.
No, you didnât. You told me what âlots of peopleâ say and then responded to that, when that wasnât what I was saying. I donât care about how well you can take down strawmen.
I canât respond to your very long post in its entirety in this space. I agree with some of it and not with others. I think Mercy needs a new E ability and Ultimate, but I donât necessarily think that either of those things should be Rez. As Iâve said like twenty times by now, Blizzard is inept at balancing it and it eats up a ridiculous amount of Mercyâs power budget because of how good the ability is inherently. If Blizzard wants to make Mercy not picked for her rez, they are probably going to have to remove it because the ability is too swingy to work as an ultimate and peaks too high to work on an ability with a static cooldown.
The only way I see Rez working is on a resource meter tied to a solo rez (short cast time or none). This gives Mercy something to work towards and thus increases gaps between skilled and unskilled Mercy players (thus addressing the main issue with current Mercy), gives her something to do in the midfight (thus addressing the main issue with old Mercy with Mass Rez), and more importantly the rate at which the resource meter goes up can be tweaked more easily than a static cooldown. But the devs have already shot down this idea because they donât want Rez to be complicated or w/e so idc anymore.
Mercy players have never done anything wrong ever. Itâs all the pros, you see! Nyah!
Pros didnât even play Mercy in a tournament context - when they did it was to pocket and solo rez Pharah - so Iâm not sure how they get the blame for hide and rez. Most high elo streamers I watched at the time hated hide and rez because whether it failed catastrophically or worked it was probably one of the dumbest game mechanics to conceive of from practically any level.
If you think that that paragraph was meant to wax poetic about how iconic Valkyrie is you should reread it.
The devs didnât want to get rid of Rez and still donât because they think the ability is cool and iconic to Mercy as a character. The image of heroes seems to drive a lot of balancing decisions around heroes which I think is backwards - bad abilities should not be kept because theyâre conceptually cool.
Cool. I two-tricked Zen and D.Va. I liked saving my bombs for big rezzes. That doesnât mean I liked playing hide and seek with the enemy Mercy, or suddenly being down a main healer because our Mercy got ult and decided to sit in spawn in a fruitless attempt get PoTG instead of actually playing the game.
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If they get rid of bunny hop⌠Iâm throwing a brick at one of the developers (jk donât ban).
âfree srâ lol how little you know my friend.
First of all that was blizzardâs fault, you can classify it as a bug but also as faulty SR gain/loss mechanics. Many mercy mains didnât even know about it because they tempo resed (myself for example)
Second of all the rework caused mercy mains boost in SR way more than mass res bug ever did. Because itâs how the system worked, more reses = more SR. Meaning the moment she got her rework people were getting up to 30 reses instead of the usual 9 max. Meaning mercy mains climbed easily climbed 1k+ sr. It was way a bigger problem than S4 mercy main climb. But no one notices it because everyone wants a mercy on their team so no one complains about it.
As for OP? Oh jeez, what rank were you when you played back then. Her ult was good but no one ever thought mercy was OP back then. She was a balanced hero with an OP ult that wasnât even that OP once you got to master/GM because those players hunted you mercilessly at that rank you were better off doing tempo reses 90% of the time as in 1-3 people. 1 person res? Oh my sounds familiar but wait an ability on a 30s cd wow that doesnât sound stupidly OP at all!
Also it was a punishing ult. You used ults I canceled your ults with my ults (just like Lucio and Zen) and then you fight it out again, if you overused ults that was your teamâs fault not mercyâs and she only sped up a fight. Letâs be honest if you used 6 ults and mercy didnt res youâd lose the next fight anyway, without res you just have 30s more room to breath it doesnât mean you won.
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At this point I feel like mercy needs to be changed in a way that just plain and simply remove rez. Rez in a game like overwatch was doomed to become what it is today. I feel like having a revive ability in a game all about picks, getting the right people dead, and man advantages is just broken in general. Mass or single. It doesnât matter. The only way I feel to truly balance out mercy is just remove rez. Replace it with another ability, like an AoE heal or some kind of buff a teammate ability. Rez will never feel fair.
Come back to me when they remove one shot mechanics from the game.