I personally feel that the Valkyrie re-work has failed and it is time to move on. The only reason I even play Mercy is because I enjoy her as a character/hero. She feels brain dead, and to me the most fun thing about her is a something that was unintentionally implemented, the super jump. And I don’t find Mercy just being out of meta, I find Mercy being completely unusable most of the time. She simply cannot heal as much as the other supports and not only can the other supports heal, they offer lots of utility. Mercy may have damage boost but I find myself never having time to with all the damage everyone is taking and it feels very uneventful. Ressurect as an ability is the only thing that gives Mercy a chance, and even with Res, it’s a sluggish, slow paced ability in a game that’s all about speed and who can go faster. Valkyrie is completely lost. It seems like the only thing that changes whenever you Valk is that you can fly. It’s once again very uneventful eith the decreased healing from 50 to 60. As for the reason why I think Resurrect as an ultimate wouldn’t/didn’t work I’d because of lower tier players not being involved in the fight. But I think that they could potentially make Mass Res work with tweaks but I personally am wanting to see something else. I hope this helps sway Blizz into giving Mercy the attention that she needs. <3
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You’re entitled to your opinions. I on the other hand don’t mind her play style. I don’t main her, hell I don’t really main anyone. It depends on my mood who I’m wanting to play. I would still play Mercy any day over Zen. Zen I find extremely boring and sometimes frustrating with how his orbs work.
I read that as Ariana Grande’s We Been Boom here for some reason, and I was like… oof.
You’re completely untitled to your opinion :)!
The other day there was another “i hate mercy” post and someone replied saying they enjoy current mercy. Well someone else replied to them calling them a troll. That’s how bad it’s been getting with her. If you enjoy her currently and say so on the forums then you’re trolling.
It’s getting pretty bad.
Yeah, she never was. Valk made her ever so slightly more fun, but only just. She’s still not interesting.
Yes she was much less brain dead with a smaller kit.
/logic
Turns out a large chunk of Mercy-Mains don’t even like Mercy. They just like Mass Rez.
Mass rez used to be the entire reason for picking Mercy, regardless of how the player actually used it. The rest of Mercy’s kit outside of Resurrect always has been and still is weak compared to every other healer, and is even worse now.
Mercy’s Resurrect ultimate gave the Mercy player something to look forward to while doing the more mundane things. It’s the constant anticipation of that awesome moment that made Mercy feel good to play, the same way that Genji players feel excited about building up to and pulling out their Dragonblade.
It’s less about mass res itself and more about what it did for the hero: it gave Mercy a “hero moment”. She doesn’t have those anymore. Her kit doesn’t allow for it, because nothing in her kit has the same level of instant impact and ability to swing a fight back in her team’s favor. Every other hero in the game except for Mercy has that kind of ability, which is why she feels so awful to play now.
Yep.
Yes.
Si.
I love mercy. And it sucks that I kinda feel a bit unhelpful to my team, and it’s gotten to the point where I tried Lucio and Moira and found myself having more fun.
I want her to be more useful in comp play, and there has been times where I did well with her, but I really just need to see if she gets that buff I’ve been hearing about next update. (This is my opinon. I’m okay with the current Mercy, but I know she could do better)
They seem to ignore her and the feedback people provide them right now. The complaints about her rework are going on for a year now and we never really got acknowledged the problems we have with her. Only thing that got mentioned are her win/pickrates which we didnt care much about.
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She actually was yes. Her old ultimate provided some sort of mindgames and reading the battlefield carefully to get the best value out of it. You had to choose between tempo rez or big rez for every situation. That plus avoiding flankers, tracking ults and healing the team gave more to do than an easy-mode ultimate like valk.
You can give Mercy another ultimate with burst impact that can save the team and many people would be happy again. It is not as much about mass-rez as some of you guys think it is. Mass-rez just gets used because it worked and was close to being balanced as Mercys old ultimate. Sadly they stopped tweaking it and gave her a braindead spectator mode as an ult instead.
Same here havent played Mercy anymore for quite a while. Now the consequence of that is that my overall playtime dropped pretty hard as well. Meanwhile the other heroes are way more entertaining and to rewarding to play. I really hope they rework her again.
Remove rez if you want but don’t act like Valkyrie is actually engaging. 90% of why I hate Mercy is because of Valkyrie and the other 10% is being made a statue to justify picking her.
This!! very much this!^
Current mercy encourages hide and rez because uou will be taken out if you just casually used it.
So hide n rez is more of a thing now than with mass rez (which it wasnt).
putting fun aside, GM and top 500 players dont only play a hero by how fun a character is, they play by how well the hero does and how impactful they are. Looking at it now, mercy provides no impact and every other support hero has an advantage over her now.
You can even check overbuff status and you’ll see that mercy and ana have the same winrate in bronze which is hovering over 44-45%. Mercy, who’s supposedly the easiest ‘go-to’ for raw healing and ana which is known to be the hardest healer with amazing impactful abilites yet they both have he same winrate down in bronze.
Mercy is supposed to shine in lower ranks due to her kit and gradually find difficulty as you climb the ranks as other healers get to shine more which would make sense if she was low skill and easier to use for lower ranks but looking at the winrates, it doesnt even seem to be the case because mercy’s winrate is just lower than everyone in the support category.
My opinion is that they made her boring, some still think she’s good or in an okay position but I respect their opinions. Although now, it has become a fact that mercy isn’t even as capable as others and is currently underperforming.
so in my eyes, Mercy is unimpactful with a rez that’s more harmful than useful, an ult that’s barely does anything and every other ult can just destroy hers with any ult of their liking, a healing that went from 60 to 50 which i knew will cause trouble and it did, i’d still manage but like she needs to have an ability to at least help her to keep her teammates from dying. and yes i get that she can still do more heals than ana and moira but ana and moira are more likely to keep their team alive more heals doesnt equal a good healer which is mercy’s case right now. She extends a fight but loses thus the extra useless heals she gains and that stats just tells people that “oh! mercy is still good because she can still do good amount of heals” no she isn’t good.
She’s been nerfed over and over((justified and i know so but hear me out), the nerfs given to the wrong parts of her kit, making her not even viable at all and just because you can heal does NOT mean that she’s vaible, you go mercy? you’re losing. unless the enemy’s dps are trash then good for you.
Mercy needed to be leveled out with the other support roster, not thrown under the rug for them and i get that they were thrown down there when mercy was the OP moth but it’s blizzard’s fault for that and saying stuff such as “mercy deserves what she got” is just wrong. NO one deserves to be treated like that.
also sorry for long post, just bored and said might as well throw in my thoughts : D no hate towards you ofc, honestly just felt like writing a lot and explaining my view lel.
exactly and not only that, but if there is a hero that has an impactful abilites instead of impactful ults but they still offer something impactful and like you said, mercy is the only hero that provides no impact whatsoever. Her rez is just a complete mess right now and has lost most if not all its value. I cant rez midfight as it’ll kill me and if i do pull it off, id have lost 1.75 seconds which is very crucial specially with the healing nerf. so with those few seconds gone into rezzing, i lose valuable time to heal, end up losing a team or 2, have that 1rezzed person with me, die with them, stagger the team and its just so chaotic.
Rez provides more harm that use which is very bad. SPECIALLY SINCE THEY GAVE HER TONS OF NERFS JUST TO BALANCE IT OUT?? ITS NOT EVEN GOOD ANYMORE. NO one goes mercy for that rez anymore. NO ONE goes like “yeah let me go mercy for her rez advantage”
she has and provides NO impact and it’s just funny how they throw that nerf hammer down on her heals just cuz “why not, lets nerf her more haha.” I’m slowly getting unmotivated to play the game because they just ruined a hero i once loved so much. She honestly impacted me, got me to lose weight too cuz i wanted to cosplay her lel but to see her just get nerfed, hated on, teared apart from the devs? its more like devastating to see.
Yes, I think that’s definitely a solution. However I think that to many people would be upset by it, and Blizzard is just to afraid to do something that extreme. I do think that that is the best thing to do.
I just wish that we would get some other solution ideas.