she is being ignored.
devs saying that the support changes were ‘extremely successful’ says it all.
while the nerf did change the meta (which is fine),
it made mercy very underpowered and not worth playing at all unless you have a pharah on your team.
With all due respect, but their statement on the support changes IS an address on Mercy’s state too, it just happens to include the entire support category, which she happens to be in. That’s not ignoring her, she’s being considered as part of her entire role, and not a separate issue right now.
An underpowered hero after balance changes deemed as successful. 2 explanations; ignorance or they are ignoring her.
The issue isn’t whether she’s underpowered or not, it’s the claim she’s being ignored, when she’s been recently balanced and has been addressed alongside the other healers as the changes being a success from the developer’s perspectives. You may not agree with the outcome of the changes, but that is not the definition of ignoring her.
In addition to mercy, the moira problem is ignored. When kaplan said that the changes to the supports went well, I asked myself, in addition to mercy, whether they deliberately ignore moira. It must be said that at least moira has a decent win rate. And that in low rank has an excellent pick rate. But there is a monopoly of ana (high rank). Are the supports now balanced? I think no.
here you are saying they are adressing an issue?
and after that you say that ‘she just happens to be in the support category’
that doesn’t change the fact that mercy is being ignored?
i’m having a hard time understanding what you’re trying to say
Mercy; a hero that’s been problematic for more than a month after balance changes exists. Yesterday, Blizz said that the support changes were successful. Mercy doesn’t fall into that category even though she’s a support therefore she is being ignored and the devs are lying.
I’m attempting to address this idea that unless Mercy gets addressed specifically/separately, she’s apparently being ignored outright, which isn’t the case. She’s a member of her role and was included in the support changes the dev’s referred to, so I’m arguing that she hasn’t been ignored as many people seem to insist is the case.
She absolutely does, she was on the list of balance changes in that support patch, and that means she’s been addressed. It may not be by name, but she doesn’t have to be, because the dev’s don’t deem her to need it. But she has been addressed as part of the patch’s perceived success, even if you disagree on their assessment.
That’s not ignoring her, or lying, you just disagree with their assessment.
They didn’t address her though because her support changes weren’t successful. Jeff says the support changes were successful. That clearly doesn’t include Mercy’s because it wasn’t successful for her. As far as I’m concerned, they only addressed the supports that actually become more balanced after they got their changes.
‘the support changes were successful’ also includes the mercy changes
(which is a horrible fix and did not adress the actual problem at all)
and the mercy threads are there for a reason, she is not in a good spot.
she hasn’t been for a long time.
Except it’s an address of her state as part of an overall balance, not just on her specifically. She doesn’t need to be talked about separately all the time. And it’s likely possible that they’re still monitoring her, as they’ve addressed 3 DPS in the last dev update we didn’t hear anything about until that video - with the exception of Pharah where there was one brief mention in response to an existing thread.
You’re choosing to put Mercy nicely outside of the criteria just because of your own personal opinion, which doesn’t actually change the fact that they have addressed her. The developer’s may consider her current state more successful than before, and you’re welcome to disagree, but deciding “they didn’t address” is inherently untrue. Just as this same addressing of the support patch includes Moira, Ana, Brigitte, Zen and Lucio.
This edit basically proves my point, you may not like it, but they did address her, just not in the way you wanted.
It’s a fact that she is underpowered. That’s no success.
They literally didn’t address her because her changes weren’t successful. How are you not understanding this? Their statement only applies to the supports that became balanced or more balanced.
I agree, she hasn’t been in a good spot for a very long time. However, bringing the other healers into a more diverse state is in my opinion, a step in the right direction, and my understanding of the developers calling it a success is not that they think Mercy or the other healers are perfect, but it achieved the effect they wanted - a diverse hero pool.
Successful =/= perfect
Mercy is almost certainly going to be getting a buff in the near future, don’t worry. They’ll probably either revert her hps nerf or make her rez a bit closer to early Valkyrie days. Less specific to Mercy and more philosophically speaking, I’m a big believer that balance changes shouldn’t be made too frequently particularly to the same hero because the community needs time to adapt to accurately evaluate said hero. There have only been a few times since launch that the devs have quickly rolled back a buff or nerf on a hero and Mercy is no exception.
I feel like the fact that they addressed her in the blanket category of supports and calling it a success is ignoring mercy cuz it makes it seem like she doesn’t even exist since they weren’t successful for her, but were for every other support that was changed, but I guess it all depends on their definition of “success”
Except that doesn’t actually make it the case, you’re simply choosing to alienate Mercy out of this because of your personal bias. Which I understand why, but it doesn’t mean she has been ignored. It’s simply a difference of opinion. The developers think one thing, you disagree, that doesn’t mean she’s been ignored though.
a success means that they achieved a goal (which they sort of did with other heroes)
but if that means that a hero becomes a walking trashcan doesn’t sound successful to me.
That goal likely included bringing Mercy into a less powerful state, which is a success, but doesn’t mean perfection has been achieved.
and they had plenty of time to balance the issue we’ve complained about. but they didn’t