Mercy & Double-Standards

[BadWidowEU-2419]

Established? Sorry but hiding has never been a good tactic.

It only started seeing play in GM because of the SR exploit.

[BadWidowEU-2419]

Hiding is never neccessary. A Mercy sustains her team until she can no longer do so. At that point, she uses her ultimate. She does not further let her team die to ult because that diminishes the value of her ultimate.

[IsTheMedia-1302]

Just going to put this out there.

I never had to deal with a hiding Mercy. I play bots/arcade/custom games. And never had to deal with playing “Find The Mercy”.

However, I did run into hiding Reapers, McCrees, Hanzo’s, even a few Tracers and Reins (usually when they wanna make a corner Shatter).

It almost sounds like a hiding Mercy was a comp problem and not a game problem in general.

*Edit: Oh I forgot hiding Junkrats! So many of those!

[BadWidowEU-2419]

It almost sounds like a hiding Mercy was a comp problem and not a game problem in general.

I wonder why.

SR exploit.

[STriver-11742]

I WILL NOW REBUTAL

Hiding was not necessary if Mercy can keep up with the damage and is not focused.
If she couldn’t keep up with the damage she hid and rezed.
And stop being whiny it’s never coming back.

[BadWidowEU-2419]

@STriver-11742

Hiding was not necessary if Mercy can keep up with the damage and is not focused.
If she couldn’t keep up with the damage she hid and rezed.

Hiding was not neccessary at all because she had Resurrect. Can’t keep up with the damage? Heal until they eventually die. Then Resurrect, keeping up the momentum and tempo of the fight. Ez clap. Poggers.

@STriver-11742

And stop being whiny it’s never coming back.

Don’t worry. I want another rework. Specifically:

@Titanium-1686

Valkyrie:

• Removed.

Resurrect:

• Removed as a basic ability and placed as Mercy’s ultimate ability.
• 15 meter range.
• Line of sight requirement. Does not apply to destructibles, payloads, or non-fundamental map obstacles that are too small to actually obscure a player. In other words, none of that BS where a player can move behind a lamp post to evade a nuclear explosion.
• 1 second cast time. Basic movement is unrestricted while casting, but all attacks and abilities are disabled for Mercy during this time.
• If Mercy is stunned or killed while casting, Resurrect does not activate and Mercy loses all ultimate charge.
• All living allies within range and LoS of Mercy once the cast time ends receive a burst heal of 150 HP. Mercy also receives this burst heal.
• All dead allies within range and LoS of Mercy once the cast time ends are revived at full health and receive 2.25 seconds of invulnerability (same as current Resurrect and Resurrect pre-rework).
• Mercy does not receive invulnerability upon Resurrect’s activation.
• Resurrect does not require dead allies to be activated.
• 1625 ultimate charge requirement (the same as Mercy 1.x’s Resurrect).

Most importantly, this takes Resurrect off one of Mercy’s basic abilities and places it into a position that matches its ultimate-like behavior. On top of this, various trade-offs were made to the ability to allow for the healing burst and the introduction of a second basic ability.

The healing burst, post-rez vulnerability, cast time, and LoS requirements all incentivise using Resurrect to revive 0-3 players rather than 4+ players. Attempting to use it on four or more players runs a greater risk a failed resurrect attempt due to the cast time. If Mercy manages to use Resurrect, there is a greater chance that she missed some allies due to the LoS requirement. If those two drawbacks do not drag her team down enough, there is also the fact that Mercy is vulnerable post-rez while her teammates are still reviving.

The healing burst and fire-at-will mechanics on Resurrect make the ability more flexible and open up some unique uses for it. For example, Mercy could use Resurrect to grant her team a burst of healing in the middle of the teamfight to keep their momentum going rather than waiting for an ally to rejoin the fight after being killed and revived.

New Basic Ability - Pacify:

• After a .5 second wind-up, Mercy launches a single hitscan attack from her left hand.
• The projectile’s hitbox size resembles that of Symmetra’s secondary fire.
• The projectile deals no damage upon impact with an enemy. Instead, it applies a debuff that reduces the base damage dealt by the target by 33%. 100 damage is reduced to 67 damage before other damage amplifiers/reductions are factored in.
• This debuff lasts for 4 seconds.
• The projectile does not persist once it hits an enemy. It is only able to affect one enemy for each use.
• The projectile is blocked by barriers, Defense Matrix, and Particle Barriers. It can be deflected by Genji’s Deflect ability.
• 10 second cooldown. The cooldown begins after the ability is cast.
• There is a .25 second wind-down time after Pacify is launched.
• During the wind-up and wind-down times, Mercy is not able to use her staff, her pistol, or Resurrect. She may use Guardian Angel, however.
• Does not affect non-player entities and constructs (turrets, Rip-Tire, Supercharger, etc).

[NCT-11645]

It only started seeing play in GM because of the SR exploit.

Do you have proof to back that up? Wouldn’t it help your case to say that hide and rez was seeing play on ladder up until GM because everyone was reaching GM and after that they’ll only had to play regularly?

It’s alright, you can still deny and gaslight that hide and Rez wasnt a thing since season 2. You’re entitled to your opinion.

[STriver-11742]

It’s never coming back.It’s never coming back.
It’s never coming back
Also putting yourself in mid danger trying to heal someone who’s doomed to die,is what bad Mercy’s do.

[BadWidowEU-2419]

Do you have proof to back that up? Wouldn’t it help your case to say that hide and rez was seeing play on ladder up until GM because everyone was reaching GM and after that they’ll only had to play regularly?

Nice straw man.

It’s alright, you can still deny and gaslight that hide and Rez wasnt a thing since season 2. You’re entitled to your opinion.

Oof, what is with these straw Mans? I’ve only said that misinformed and bad Mercy’s used “Hide n Res”. I didn’t say that it didn’t exist.

[BadWidowEU-2419]

It’s never coming back.It’s never coming back.
It’s never coming back

Nice spam.

Also putting yourself in mid danger trying to heal someone who’s doomed to die,is what bad Mercy’s do.

Is that why GA and anything that obstructs LoS exists? Keep telling yourself that then.

[STriver-11742]

Dude,wtf is this.You’re profile…does not exist XD

[BadWidowEU-2419]

It’s my smurf.

[STriver-11742]

Dito.Keep telling yourself that flying into a D.VA,Hanzo,Zarya,Genjo,Rein ult is a good idea Will leave space for the good Mercy’s in GM

[BadWidowEU-2419]

Nice strawman. This is not my argument.

[STriver-11742]

Like your profile can’t be found at all.Eitherway.I got better things to do than argue with someone who’s freaking delusional. Mass rez just ain’t coming back.“DEAL W/ IT”

[BadWidowEU-2419]

Like your profile can’t be found at all.Eitherway.I got better things to do than argue with someone who’s freaking delusional

Resorts to ad hominem. Ok…

Mass rez just ain’t coming back.“DEAL W/ IT”

If Valkyrie can come back after 2 years, I don’t see why mass Resurrect can’t.

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Lovely chat. Hope we can learn something from today. The both of us.

[NCT-11645]

I didn’t say that it didn’t exist.

It only started seeing play in GM because of the SR exploit.

You just did.

Anyway if you are not going to answer questions and would rather call everything i say a “strawman” and or spam Titanium’s thread then please don’t bother answering anymore. You already proved that you dont know how 2016 Mercy played, or why and when hide and Rez became and was a thing, or why Hide and Rez was a problem.

[STriver-11742]

Just gonna say.You might argue that mass rez takes no actual skill.You just flying around and see a 2x on your screen and press Q.If you think that’s fun and skillfull.Good for you.I wish I could have standards as low as you.

[BadWidowEU-2419]

You just did.

Sorry, do the ranks below no longer exist?

Throughout this whole argument, you and I have made it very clear the strategy existed.

Anyway if you are not going to answer questions and would rather call everything i say a “strawman”

Maybe don’t resort to logical fallacies then…

spam Titanium’s thread then please don’t bother answering anymore.

Someone asked me to quote it again because they couldn’t be bothered to scroll up. Blame them. Ironically, it’s the one who is liking your replies.

You already proved that you dont know how 2016 Mercy played

That’s you, my friend.

or why and when hide and Rez became and was a thing

Invulnerability and SR exploit.

why Hide and Rez was a problem.

Because it was counter-intuitive to Mercy’s existence as a main healer.

[Matsy-21502]

Mass Res did encourage a certain kind of playstyle that Blizzard decided to remove for the good of the game.
It’s a pitty Mass Res seems to be the only thing Mercy players found “fun”.