Mercy bottom line

Yeah it can suck. Personally I just go for risky rezzes whenever possible because it’s satisfying pulling them off in front of the enemy

As much as people like to say otherwise you can still move during it and even as slow as it is it can throw your hitbox off from certain shots

That’s what Mercy mains felt over a year ago during the time of triple tank and Lucio.

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“Genocide is evil”
“Ya’ll keep saying this, but I’m gonna need a different argument to convince me of it”

That’s basically what you’re saying.
If it gets repeated, over and over again, doesn’t mean it’s a bad argument.
If every single sentence and reasoning for the rework the OW team has ever said about it is broken down and argued against over and over again, then maybe THEY need to come up with something better.

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Exactly. It’s not our job to come up with the solution. If it was, we’d all be Blizzard employees.

Has it though

Because so far 99% of the arguments for their reasons are ‘‘I feel this’’

I don’t fully dislike res in its current form. But when i see mcree miss headshot at close range when I’m in res animation. I know this mcree is garbage. Like seriously how do you miss a slow-moving res that locks you almost in place.like seriously so many dps players in plat do this.

That’s true, but outside of damage boost… none of her team dependency used to require her team to do things that they weren’t going to do at some point anyway. Nothing she needed them to do was “Do X for the 1.75 seconds I’m going to be doing Y”

GA? Stand somewhere. Maybe not in a clump? Mercy can and should be moving herself to make her teammate’s positions better for her.
Heal? Take damage. Yeah… that’s gonna happen.
Res? Die. If this doesn’t happen, that means your steam rolling and its a good problem to have.

Current resurrect though? Way better if she gets some cover from her tanks or other support… but that requires them to either be paying very close attention or be listening.

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Why are you rezzing someone literally borderline melee range to someone who can stun tho

I do like valk though. Imagine if the devs had given mercy valk on e when game launched out of beta.

Because i need to get res of to bring back someone important also close range is up to 12 meters which is shotgun range.

I mean there are plenty of places you can rez someone. I don’t know what fights you’ve had or are picturing but they’re not all 6v6 reinhardt fights

You can rez the widow high up who died to something, you can rez someone who is close to a corner so you’re still protected

I know its risky to use rez but not every single rez situation is a 100% death sentence where you take 500% increased damage and everything auto aims to you

Oh it has. Just because you choose to ignore it, or just because the mods chose to dump it all in the megathreads, doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

Also, opinions on heroes DO matter. Don’t be so quick to just brush them off.
If you needed facts, you can also argue that statistically, Bastion should be OPAF as the single highest DPS in the game ever. But we both know that Bastion is a throw pick.

Same with Mercy. She’s balanced, on paper. In the actual game though, it’s something entirely different.

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That’s… not at all what that statement means.

For Old Resurrect to be useful, you need one of your teammates to die. That’s going to happen. If it doesn’t happen, that means your team is stomping face and is a good problem to have.

So… while it is a team dependent ability, you do not need anyone to do something specific at a particular time.

For current Resurrect… at least some of them you need a bubble or DM or Armor pack or what have you when you go for it. Sure, some resurrects will go fine without any help… but the best ones really kinda need that help… help that Mercy will only rarely get.

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Not saying they don’t

It’s just if you change Mercy back for example then you get the exact same situation again where people are still unhappy

Whoops my mistake

You don’t need it just helps, especially if it is one of those big brawl situations

You can 100% use the rez in any situation and it will work without a Zarya bubble

You just risk potential death in some situations, that’s the risk/reward to balancing the ability

You’re counting the other support and low DPS tanks? You’re also assuming everyone is going to be in range, this is rarely the case.

Giving 50% to someone who’s doing maybe 70-80% of the damage at the time (while ulting) is usually much more impactful than granting 30% to 2-4 people unless you’re overloaded on DPS.

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Of course

Every damage matters when defeating the team, unless you think team kills are only accomplished by just two DPS in every match?

Your assumption of +150% to team damage vs +50% on Nano is incorrect.

While your Genji/Soldier are ulting, they’re probably doing 80-90% of your team’s entire damage and getting or causing close to 100% of the kills.

So for those 8 seconds, Nano adds 30-40% to team DPS, while Valk would add maybe 27-30% if you use it just to damage boost the ulter and manage to get the entire team in it and everyone is doing DPS at the same time. It’s only marginally better than just using damage boost without ult.

If you’re comparing a Nano Ult to Mercy just turning on damage boost and hitting 2-4 people with it, it still doesn’t = a 50% boost to your top DPS.

I don’t think I was the one to bring up comparing the two

Maybe, so many threads, so hard to keep track

So what you’re saying is that they’re basically equal

The thing is, why do we have to change our arguments just to slightly increase the chance when literally every nerf or change has happened because people don’t like playing against that hero or don’t find a certain ability of them unfun to play against?
Why are we not allowed to repeat our arguments because the way I see it, they’re completely valid and shouldn’t be ignored. People moaned about Mass Rez being unfun to play against after a certain bird cried about his kills being done. They were heard after turning into a collective hive mind. Why aren’t we? Why are all the countless ideas in the god knows how many megathreads being ignored?

Mercy has been straight up gutted because Blizzard doesn’t want to admit they made a mistake. And you can bet that we will bring up the very valid arguments over and over again until we get an actual response and not something mentioned on the sidelines because they’re tired of hearing it.

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Maybe they’re not ignored
Maybe they read them and just don’t agree?

I mean make as many fair points as you want

Bottom line is that its still their game and they have the final say