Mercy’s ability to Rez tanks will always be broken

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This probably doesn’t apply to OW2 since tanks are punching bags but if they are actually buffed to be raid bosses then the point still stands.

let me ask you this:
if there’s only 1 tank defining the frontline in OW2 and TTK is going further down in OW2, what makes you think mercy can likely pull off a 1.75s cast time res on a tank that likely died in front of the enemy while the rest of the team that can possibly be alive to cover for her are all squishies?

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so…are you from minecraft?

But how does the point still stand if in OW2 they are removing a tank? If the one tank dies and the mercy is able to perform a successful rez without any actual defenses then thats on the enemy for letting it happen.

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Eh, I disagree.

If Tanks are able to be deleted within the span of a 0.5 second stun, it stands to reason that there should be a quick way to bring them back.

I suppose, at a compromise, I’d be in favour of removing Rez as well as stuns and nerfing burst damage :wink:

I disagree with the core of your point.

Due to positioning of tanks and dead tanks not being able to tank rezing them is way more risky, so if it gives more reward it’s earned.

It also however gives the enemy a massive hp pool that cannot react for a few beats, giving you the perfect opportunity to boost your ult economy. Especially considering any defenses given to Mercy cannot easily be given to the tank when they respawn, so the risky element for her directly feeds into the feeding bonus for you.

Finally most tanks are terribly balanced right now. Not always but a lot of the time it feels like we run 2 tanks because we are forced 2 and given the choice 1-3-2 or even 0-4-2 would be preferable. I don’t really see how there is a consistent advantage to getting one of them back vs getting an OP hero like Echo back, for example.

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All very true. 0-4-2 is going a little far, though. The last competitive play before role lock was implemented showed that 1-3-2 was the most powerful comp. I think teams today would drop D.va for another DPS if they could, but I don’t think they’d drop Wrecking Ball.

I’d agree 1-3-2 would be my bet for meta.

We would have to throw the possibility of 3-0-3 in but purely because of how Brig enables that comp, take the worst built of all the tanks, best of all the DPS and put that live without role lock and Brig could maybe still make 3-0-3 a possibility at times, that’s what she does. So 3-0-3 acknowledged lets now put it to the side.

My 0-4-2 point is not me saying it would be meta, but I can honestly imagine a world where no-tank comps would get more top end use then 2-2-2.

Some maps, like Oasis ruins, for example really do not lend themselves to tanks. I could see a few points seeing 0-4-2 and everything else being 1-3-2. It’s unlikely to be that pure, I suspect some 2-2-2 would still see use even if 1-3-2 was the meta. But honestly I’m not convinced 2-2-2 would see more use than 0-4-2.

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Ball is a meeenace on Oasis Ruins, though. I see where you’re coming from; I just think you’re underestimating Ball a bit. I’m thinking in terms of OWL, however. In ranked, I could absolutely see 0-4-2 dominating games, just because the coordination and tank play isn’t on a high enough level to give Ball the impact of another DPS.

I agree, I would not bet on 0-4-2. Ball is banging, also Orisa has real potential with 3 DPS when 4 DPS would work. That was a semi-common, point specific comp at times as she basically glued to point to deny progress while 3 hitscans covered the entire map.

I would ask though how easily could 3 DPS melt Ball (or any solo tank) before they get value, potentially very fast. Now imagine what 4 could do vs solo tank? Might be enough for many KotH points, maybe 66 point 1, Dorado 1, parts of Blizzard world or a few more.

Considering how much 1-3-2 we both think there would be 0-4-2 (or some other no-tank comp) wouldn’t have to make much headway to take 2nd best spot over 2-2-2 (assuming 3-0-3 doesn’t come back, which I admit it might).

Maybe 2-2-2 would hold out for second most use, I’m open to that, but I don’t think it’s a slam-dunk obvious silver for 2-2-2 behind 1-3-2 (though that being most used seems pretty likely), I honestly think there is a real possibility if we were to get some OWL teams to do proper Open-Queue scrims 2-2-2 may see less use than no-tank comps.

The real takeaway though is the OP is wrong about Mercy Rez, okay we may have gone off topic…

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