What if his roll was invencible for a small period,dispelled him from Discord and stuff and traveled sligtly farther like 2 meters or as you put it had 2 s less cooldown? I mean i wouldnt be against a hitbox shrink but just throwing out ideas
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Any bullet that lands as a headshot isn’t consumed from the magazine?
I like c:
How would that work ? Majic? 
McCree like widow can’t have a buff or people with godlike mechanical aim would dominate the whole game.
Soldier also has more range and can survive a dive and help with it more often since his healing doesnt get eaten by barriers/defence matrix and all that, thats why hes better at high-elos, McCree is just fodder when dived upon.
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I feel like it would only have use when dodging some huge burst damage like Self Destruct or Pulsebomb ,otherwise that has no use ,a hitbox shrink would be much better.
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I think it would help when dealing with Winston/D.va diving you more often than not, specially when usually he is discorded when dove and Leap and Dva do alot of burst dmg that if u time right can be avoided for some 70 health saved there, different than a hitbox shrink that wouldnt help him against them, but instead with Tracer and Gengu, maybe we could go as far as give him both those changes and he wouldnt be too broken, tho preeeetyy close.
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How does combat roll reload his gun?
How does his flashbang recharge?
Why doesn’t one head shot kill him?
Does Sombra see people through walls with the help of Sonic magic or infrasight?
It’s a game, all that really matters is that it serves gameplay.
Soldier 76 has the spread of burst, which drastically reduces his DPS at range, either through the spread or the burst. His helix rocket is his sole source of burst, so he has difficulty with pocketed Pharah, for example.
Also McCree is used more at higher elos, which may be a source of hic comparatively reduced stats.
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I mean, les go thru order here.
1: He reloads his gun really fast while rolling with his robot arm.
2: He has more than 1, just can throw in succession cuz, uh, majic.
3: Welp, evolution made thiccer heads.
4: HACKERGIRL
Still going that blatant on shots not being consumed while hitting heads is a bit much imo, doesnt serve his 6 shooter fantasy much and since kits are so limited i wouldnt like to see a spot of his kit being on not consuming boolets as long as he headshots, instead on something that feels more… cowboyee? i dont even.
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Can we improve his effective range on headshots?
That’s basically what he does with deadeye.
yet soldier got better winrate across all ranks
myth busted, soldier is just better due to having self heal, rocket, infinite sprint and better ult
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Well thats all his ultimate is good for, if u give him more range no one even cares bout deadeye anymore.
Again, his gun is in no need of assistance, his survivability is.
Or take his hat away from his critbox
Give Flashbang 5m radius.
Winrate is not an ideal metric because it can be affected by usage as torb/sym demonstrates. Soldier 76 is winning more games when he is played, but it’s hard to tell if that is due to being strictly better or because he is strictly better or because he is used less.
There is also the fact that 76 is not used in OWL, and when he is, he is noticeably under performing. McCree has a bit above 50% win rate, while Soldier 76 has below 40%. And in this case McCree is used twice as much. Trickle down meta does exist, at least to some degree.
Finally there is something the stats simply do not demonstrate: a niche. McCree is a close-mid backline. 76 is a straight mid range backline. Widowmaker, at least at a pro level, is a mid-long range backline, and so is Hanzo. McCree works in places Widowmaker and Hanzo do not. There are almost no place where you would pick 76 if you are good enough to use the other backline heroes.
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People run McCree in high level games because Flashbang makes McCree a bit safer, able to protect himself. Soldier 76 may deal more damage, but he is super dead if enemies get near.
Because he can shot most of the cast and has a stun.
If you want him to have a real kit he would need to loose left click damage.
Otherwise enjoy McLeftClick if you want everything front loaded on that button
He isn’t THAT potent, and Hanzo was recently buffed to the point where He IS nearly that potent (replace stun with wallhacks and it’s roughly the same).
While McCree is in a good spot NOW, there is the fear that feature creep will render him out of meta, simply because for the average player, he is very basic, unrewarding, and potentially not up to par.
they are used the same amount though?
the reason why he is picked more on overwatch league is because he works better with mercy, pocketing a mccree makes him god like
plus his crit is simply better for pros, there is a reason why widowmaker is used a lot too
but realistically most players will never hit as much crits or have pro healers on their team constantly making sure he doesnt die
a mccree that is constantly healed and being damage boosted all the time will beat soldier in a pro match, he is basically the 2nd widowmaker on places where widowmaker cannot be used
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