Difference between baiting an ability and trading a 12s cooldown for a 19s cooldown
A .5 second sleep wouldnât be annoying.
The whole issue with sleep is that itâs essentially a free kill as soon as you land it. The person hit PHYSICALLY cannot move for either 3 or 5 seconds.
Itâs ESPECIALLY bad for tanks, who are simply not hard to hit with it. Iâd rather deal with a hyper mobile hero being on the loose, than a support hero that physically makes certain heroes IMPOSSIBLE to play.
Thatâs not how it works at all.
Those hypermobile heroes that sleep stops? Those heroes have healthpools so large that non-CC heroes canât stop them because theyâre built for a game with things like sleep in them.
If you get rid of sleep, heroes like ball can be balanced to actually die to being shot at. More fun for everyone.
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Mauga is getting rekt by Ana.
He is like a Roadhog with charge but without the Breather.
Hilarious how Ana already disables a new Hero that hasnât even been released.
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This is so idiotic.
Youâre stacking dumb role passive effects because of one broken hero.
Scrap all role passives, stop balancing the game around roles and rework ana out of the game.
Average stun is 1 second or less, not sure why anyone was ever okay with a 5 second stun
Bruh, using one character as an example of countering all the other characters means the one character is the problem, not the other way around. No single character should be a necessity, so saying one is means that one is breaking the rules.
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thatâs against mauga mirror comps with bastion
Disruptions will always be annoying. Its why McCreeâs flashbang was annoying, and why his current nade still annoys people.
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No, thatâs not the issue people typically mention. It might be your issue, but thereâs people who just think its annoying to be unable to play the game. Even if you were completely immune to damage while sleeping, people would still complain about being stopped. Just look at anti Ana threads for verification on that.
That mindset hasnât worked yet, it wonât work after they remove sleep, and I think we need to admit that. The âif we change this, everything will be better!â brigade has a nearly 100% track record of failing. Overwatch has never been more hated than it is now because of it. At what point do we just admit that?
At no point did I say Ana is the exclusive counter to each and every last mobility hero. I just said sheâs a great counter to mobility. Of course, Iâm sure you wonât care about that; you might just go tell others that I said âAna counters all mobility and shouldnât be nerfed because of itâ. You wouldnât be the first person to do that.
Fact are simple: nerf sleep, and mobility heroes get an indirect buff. That doesnât mean sheâs the only one countering mobility, and nothing in that sentence suggests that she is. However, as I said before, you probably wonât care about that.
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Because his current nade is a homing missile sombra hack.
Mauga would be fun in 6v6. Ana is only a huge nuisance for tanks because we donât have a 2nd tank to counter the Ana.
Youâre point was that if Anaâs sleep wasnât around that people would be more annoyed by mobility characters. That implies that sheâs all-important.
But, of course, Iâm sure you wouldnât care about that. You just donât want her to be nerfed because ânerf badâ
Not exactly correct, Ana is just a bigger nuisance as of 5v5
She was already a nuisance, it just became more pronounced.
That absolutely does not imply sheâs âall-importantâ, and I think you know that. My comment says nothing about how important she is as a counter, simply that mobility would be more annoying due to a lack of counter.
Predictably, you didnât care like I said you wouldnât. The only issue is on your end where you decided I meant Ana was âall importantâ. You assumed, its on you.
You are entirely correct to say I donât care. Its because youâre wrong. If I made incorrect judgements or statements about you, would you care?
It might actually be worse than playing hog into ana
So if Ana isnât all important then, nerfing her would be A-OK. She needs changes because sheâs a consistently problematic character.
No. Because any nerf is an indirect buff to certain aspects of the game. Baptiste isnât all important, but nerfing his IF is a buff to burst damage and the like. Iâve said and implied that before, but you got to âpeople would be more annoyedâ and your brain registered that as âAna is the most important support in the entire game and you canât nerf herâ.
Not only do I not agree with that sentence, the way a lot of you guys talk about Ana is evidence that you donât care about Ana as a character or how she effects the game as an individual unit. You think the game would be better if she was stiffly nerfed and you have not and will not think about any downsides to nerfing her.
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There shouldnât be overarching downsides to nerfing a single character, if there are then that character needed the nerfs because theyâre too strong
You donât know what youâre talking about. Nerfing any character has its over arching downsides. Each and every character effects the way the game is played, and if you think you can nerf heroes in a way that effects nothing, then thereâs not much I can say to convince you.
Characters keep each other in line in some way. Its the inherent way the game is made. If you can nerf a character in a way that effects nothing else, its only because that character is so awful, that they could be removed with little issue.
Each character affects how you approach a match. Ana effects that too much because she counters every tank more or less and some extremely.
If a characterâs effect on the game is too profound, then theyâre a problem. Thatâs why they have buffs and nerfs at all.
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