I agree ive been playing support more than anything else cause kiriko and lucio feel really good to play.
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sure buddy. keep carrying
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yes, all points except Moira require the team to use the opportunity
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It depends on your team. If everyone is decent, support is THE carry. If you have bad dps with a tank that doesn’t push/contest, you’re going down with the ship.
Isn’t it the same for the tank role?
I’m hard stuck just by looking at this
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I carry a lot as Brig. But I am currently ranked way lower than I was in OW1.
Keep on playing Brig and Moira, you will start stacking victories and climbing dude.
Even if you dont win all the time, seeing the flankers cower and run back in fear is priceless 
You don’t even have to “carry”. All you gotta do is not be bad and do your job (not just be a weak healbot that does nothing all game) and you will win a lot more often than you lose.
You can’t win every single game. It’s impossible. I’ve seen GMs lose in gold lobbies all the time. Wasn’t their fault.
A lot of Overwatch is like anything else in that you get better the more you play. You get out what you put in. These guys in GM a lot of them are streamers playing 8-12 hours per day. I’m a 37 year old with a job and a kid so realistically I can’t expect to ever climb that high on the ladder.
However I play at least a couple hours per day so masters is realistic if I work on my aim and a few other things.
You wanna git gud on support you just gotta put in the time. It’s that simple.
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and that’s exactly the point, in quick play, which is the mode that maybe 70% of the population plays, it’s all uncoordinated, while maybe the other team is a five stack communicating like e-sports pros.
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Every level of play is uncoordinated.
If there’s one thing I’ve learned in my entire experience with OW is there’s no magic level you reach where it no longer a 
show.
It’s too complicated of a game and there’s way too many variables especially when talking about random people teaming in ranked or QP for it not to be that way.
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So the cope has gone from “just take cover” to “just switch”. Yeh no.
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Wow you really just cherry picked one sentence fragment out of context from an already short comment and responded to that.
Not surprised though. 
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“Report the healer, they aren’t healing”
… as you’re being hammered by 3 enemies … I’ll just… heal you as I run back… here’s an orb. … oh wait, it bounced off the cart and is now in outer space… my bad.
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That’s a rather disingeneous response given that the video you linked is of a Lucio in a 4-stack. That’s not really what I’d consider proof of carry potential. If you’re not in a group and your team just doesn’t work as a singular cohesive unit instead of as individuals who happen to be on a team, you simply cannot carry on support.
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I only play Lucio but will flex to Moira if need be. Support feels fine to me. I’m used to fighting for my damn life on Lucio. And I only solo queue.
And here is the issue. The other roles are all capable of clutch, team fight moments that warrant carrying, and if they do well, they’ll win consistently.
As support, you have to play incredibly well just to have a 50/50 chance of winning.
Only way this changes atm is if you have a team which you coordinate with, typically while you’re on Ana, making sure to combo nano or the enemy team ints and lets you headshot them all on Zen. And that’s about it. No real space for clutch plays.
Also they were absolutely carried in the footage while touting their own skill as a carry.
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What was so good about this game play?
I got 2min in and closed it after watching you miss almost all your shots (mostly at the tank) and you dropped the beat on…your reapers ult, then got killed when the enemy soldier ulted?
Supports can definitely make plays (especially one’s with good engage/initiate ults) but you just kinda existed in the game play I saw there and your Auras did the work 
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I disagree with the Carry potential. (And that’s a problem in itself that people don’t think that their Supports CAN carry them to a W)
The worst part now is the Stats being tracked. All anyone cares about is your Healing Stat…not all the actual ways you “Support” your team. This is why post match cards/votes are SORELY missing !