Make mercy fun please

[Jmadura17-1893]

the only reason her pick rate is high is because she is the ONLY healer in game who can effectivley solo heal. Only one. Doesn’t mean she fun in a game that is supposed to make you entertained.

[anon61360]

I have fun with her, sorry.

[MrWallygator-1196]

i really don’t get this, i’ve played mercy with no invincible mass rez, broken mass rez, and every version after rework, her ult had 0 fun, and honestly i have more fun in valk then out of it, and her base kit is pretty much exactly the same as pre-rework except she can now rez outside of ult, which if anything makes her more fun, so how can people complain about her being less fun now if she was more basic/afk healer then, compared to how she is now. (unless it’s just them being addicted to broken mercy-meta version in which case she’ll never be the same)

[LASERPEWPEW-1339]

you have 5 hours on Mercy, Play her more then talk.
edit, 14hr.

[SoLIDSnAKE-12727]

So guardian angel, her two beams, using valk with strategy, all her CORE-PLAY is boring JUST cuz she can’t rez 6 people HIDING anymore? some people TROLL for the SAKE of TROLL

Pressing “Q” every 5 mins is what made mercy fun is like OMG… for 5 mins you do nothing then right? only afk is insane

[SHiBA-11655]

Mercy is fun and Mercy is adorable <3

[Jmadura17-1893]

she wasn’t fun then either, nor have I said she was. literally ever. but back then she FELT rewarding to play. Also I didn’t say revert her you people really need to think about what you’re going to say before you actually say it.

[JushMaster-1611]

There is still so much sheer ignorance in the community, very few true Mercy mains find her ‘fun’, the majority people I’ve come across who have said they were fun had other top heroes and Mercy was like their 2nd or 3rd. Her pick rate in OWL is attributed to her cheap res which takes less skill than mass res because she doesn’t have to earn it at all - but I’m not on the revert boat at all. Read Eeveea’s forum post, it outlines in many ways how Mercy can be more fun and engaging while raising her skill ceiling and make res an earnable ability. If this ever happens watch her drop like a rock from OWL and drop a few places on the competitive ladder.

TL;DR: Please be informed before commenting on Mercy threads.

[Ungod-1936]

I’ve had more fun on her recently than I ever had on the old Mercy. Her valk and extra mobility make her an absolute blast to play! I just had a qp match where I had 12k healing and silver elims. Maybe you just aren’t playing her right? She’s absolute oodles more fun now!

[SHiBA-11655]

I think your more ignorant by claiming that only a few mercy mains have fun with her and that people who maybe have her as there 2nd or 3rd arent true mercy mains.

[Tathem-11150]

[Jmadura17-1893]

this sounds like a bot reply I refuse to believe you’re real bye

[JushMaster-1611]

If Mercy isn’t isn’t your most played then you can’t consider them your main, but if you have multiple mains it just dilutes your experience with Mercy. I personally have not come across 1 person who said Mercy is fun who had her as their most played hero. If you play Mercy less, the flaws in her kit are less obvious.

[SHiBA-11655]

Thats not how any of this works tf lmao

I cant ALWAYS choose Mercy im a flex player, sometimes i need to choose another support, sometimes i need to choose a main or off tank or even a bastion/torb just to make sure the enemy team has a hard time pushing.

While i am currently trying to balance out my 3 mains times you cant claim that she isnt my main just bc i dont have the most time on her

Thats like going up to a widow that pops headshots after headshota and claiming they aren’t a true widow because they have one more hour on another hero then widow, its stupid.

@JushMaster-1611

I personally have not come across 1 person who said Mercy is fun who had her as their most played hero. If you play Mercy less, the flaws in her kit are less obvious.

Funny how i just watched a grandmaster (or higher, im not going through all her videos, one of the titles says shes gonna stay in gm so) Mercy main youtuber say that they still find Mercy fun, funny how its actually impossible for you to servey every single Mercy main. Funny how your also ignoring the fact that videos of Mercy exist which can also clearly display flaws or strengths if played correctly. It doesnt matter if i have a few less hours on Mercy than dva it doesnt make my or anyone elses knowledge lesser or even better then yours.

[Kendo-11390]

mercy need heal and shoot at same time

[Plarpoon-2445]

that’s one option, not my favourite but indeed one of the options. i really enjoyed Macster’s idea:

@Macster-11267

Valkyrie would be an effective E ability because it can be used situational. Whether you wanted to engage with Damage Boost use it for some extra heal power or go battle Mercy it’s better off as an ability. 5 seconds active 20 second cool down.

Unlimited ammo for the Battle Mercy Moths
Initial Beam target gains full benefit of Mercy’s staff
Chain healing from initial target gets half the amount. Gives Mercy players some Beam prioritization.
Beam range reduced from 30M to 20M
No uninterrupted passive healing
GA range increase still kept
Speed on Live is perfect for the ability

GA momentum buff “bunny hop” kept.

Resurrect becomes ultimate

Ultimate can Resurrect upto 5 people
Allies need to be in LOS of Mercy in order to cast Resurrect
Blockable by barriers
15M radius from Mercy’s position
1 - 1.5 second cast time. The time it takes to say “Heroes Never Die”
After cast of Resurrect uninterrupted passive healing will be activated for 5 seconds/can be Invulnerability/can be Damage Reduction/can also be Health Restored
Increasing the point amount needed in order to gain Resurrect as an ultimate would also compensate for the increased healing and damage boosting from her ultimate.
While in Resurrect cast time players are still able to use GA freely

The hero is fixed/diverse/impactful/engaging and FUN.

Here me out while I explain why I think she should be this way.

Toning down Valkyrie into an ability would best fit Mercy. Having many different options to use her ability, whether that be defensively (Healing), Offensively (Damage Boosting), Reactively (DPS Mercy), gives the player flexibility in her kit. More options means more plays means a fun character. Currently live Valkyrie you have this option but it gets boring real fast just because the ultimate is very long and it doesn’t have a real impact to an ultimate fight. Usually the team will get bulldozed by multiple ultimates even if Mercy has the healing beam on her team.

I know you don’t want Valkyrie to directly buff Resurrect we can see that by the latest nerfs, or we bring back the horror of Mercy 2.0. So having them independent of each other is what the character needs, as you can see by Live version of Mercy she’s pretty balanced that way where Resurrect doesn’t correlate with Valkyrie, (But if Resurrect was used during Valkyrie she has the ability to fly while Resurrecting) so they are independent of each other but using them together can buff each other.

If we look at the proposed argument about having the initial beam target have Full healing/Damage Boosting, and the surrounding chain healing will get half doing the math it would look something like this.

Initial Beam Target Healing:

60HPS * 5 Seconds of Valkyrie = 300HP (That’s on par with Moira)

Surrounding Beam Target:

30 HPS * 5 Seconds of Valkyrie = 150HP (That’s on par with Zenyatta)

So she wouldn’t necessarily be broken. It would boost her output of Healing (Which she is the Main Healer of Overwatch). That being said… Mercy switches between Healing and Damage Boosting so you would never get that full amount of healing anyways.

So now let’s look at the other parts to Valkyrie I proposed.

The beam target M range reduced:

Mercy wouldn’t be able to fly into the skybox and be unkillable
Would bring back the momentum Mercy players loved flying from one hero to the next.
Having the range increased by only 50% more will force players to utilize GA and the momentum she gets from pushing spacebar more to avoid shots.

The uninterrupted passive regen
This is the thing players have been complaining about. It makes her unkillable especially since shots barely do damage from that far in the sky, and the regen makes it nearly impossible for her to be killed.
Mercy would be able to be shot down in Valkyrie, forcing Mercy players to be smarter with positioning and aware of targets she can use GA too.

The shorter active time:
The problem with Valkyrie is that it is LONG and BORING
Valkyrie does bring a new dynamic to her kit which is cool and the ability for Mercy to contribute to a teamfight, which is what she was lacking is good for her.
Having it on a shorter duration like 5 seconds and up every 20 seconds will allow players to be flexible on when they should use it and how they use it.
You won’t get bored because you will be more active during the fight and since the passive regen and the nerf to beam range you will need to be more proactive with positioning and who you target with your beam.

This will make Valkyrie more engaging and fun for the hero. Keeping the extended GA range and free flight, would benefit Mercy players positioning wise and let’s Mercy be independent as well as team reliant.

The GA momentum buff “bunny hop” should stay since it’s very fun to use.

For the Resurrect ultimate this is why I proposed what I did:

Line of Sight:

This counters the Hide and Seek Mercy game completely

Blockable by Barriers:
It would work just like any other DPS ultimate, if you are erasing kills it should act the same way as getting them, and her support ultimate counterparts are blocked by shielding so Mercy shouldn’t be an exception since it is pretty powerful if you pull it off (with the exception of Ana, Moira and Symm) like Eeveea said on his stream “Mercy is a ball of exceptions” so let’s try and avoid that.
DPS can’t complain that it is unfair especially since it would work the same way as getting kills.

Cast time:
This is understandable, DPS should have a way of countering it before it gets pulled off. Just like you have a chance to counter a DPS ultimate before it gets pulled off.
The cast time wouldn’t be awful if it wasn’t attached with a slow
Old Resurrect felt like it didn’t have a cast time, but if it went something like Lucio where it was like.
Mercy player pushes Q –> Voiceline –> (1 second) –> Resurrect
Lucio player pushes Q –> Voiceline –> (1 second) –> Sound Barrier

It would become a lot more fair to every player.

Passive Regen upon casting:
Players hated her being invulnerable, but if she had the uninterrupted passive for 5 seconds after casting her ultimate, she could still be killed, it would just be harder for them to do it. Mercy is punished because she needs to wait for her team to come back so in the meantime while she is waiting she should be compensated with the uninterrupted passive regen to stay alive.
I do however think the invulnerability isn’t that bad for her. That it wouldn’t be much of a problem seeing as the above nerfs would effect her survivability so she could be rewarded with a surviving tool.

Having it this way would bring the impact Mercy is lacking. It would make pulling off a Resurrect more fulfilling since u can get more than 1 person. It would be impossible to use if Mercy players weren’t actively in the fight alongside her team.

Valkyrie on the other hand can be used in many different situations making it really diverse and fun to use. An ability should follow the same format as what I described.

Let’s take a look at Zarya:

Bubble can be used aggressively to engage, it can be used defensively to disengage and reactively to defend herself when she gets surprised or even stuck with a Tracer bomb.

Let’s take a look at Ana:

Sleep Dart can be used offensively if it lands on a target, it can be used Defensively to sleep a flanker hunting her down, or reactively to shut down an ultimate.

If it follows that format it will make for a good ability, and Valkyrie can become that perfect ability for Mercy and will help her become more teamfight focused.

Resurrect needs to go back to an ultimate but it needs to have some penalties attached to it. Something that it was lacking before Ie. LOS requirement and Blockable by Barriers. It wouldn’t feel great if McCree was able to shoot you through a reinhardt barrier during his ultimate would it? So we need to take into perspective the frustrations that the enemy team faces when Resurrect is used. Making the ability more skill oriented would increase the skill floor of the character.

This is how I have been envisioning Mercy ever since her rework was announced.

I will do anything to get the hero that I fell in love with back and balanced. Mercy was the main reason I fell in love with this game and the sole reason why I still continue playing the game. Some Quality of Life changes to Mass Resurrect and an ability that could function in multiple ways is what Mercy needed to make the hero balanced and fun.

[JushMaster-1611]

First of all I wasn’t even talking to your when I was talking about people’s most played heroes and secondly proof if you’re going to say something like that about a YouTuber. Yes I can’t possibly survey every Mercy player but I visit the forums everyday, I play everyday and talk to other Mercy players everyday, I read essays about Mercy on the forums and have 500 hours on her. Especially as a console player and in a low rank like you are where Mercy absolutely thrives, your opinion may be a bit diluted. But mine is aswell because I’m a Mercy main but I always listen to everyone’s opinions and their suggestive stuff and make constructive and sustained arguments. I’m really fed up with the sheer ignorance of people who don’t read the forums, that don’t see the arguments put forward by Mercy players that they know she is balanced and ‘fine’ but want to add more variety to her kit, especially when a perfectly ‘fine’ hero like Lucio is changed when literally no one asked, yet they can’t do anything about Mercy when there are tens of thousands of posts about her.

[jayfeather-11321]

Imo, Mercy is fun. Shes fun for me bc I can take out pharahmercy or just pharah by herself and noone ever notices me whenever I res(271 hrs) just improvise. Adapt. Overcome

[KucingIsCat-1260]

I have almost 300 hours on her, can i talk?

[Hige-1101]

good for you bro! but in all honesty the argument that in order to see how unfun she is you need to only play Mercy since you were born is preposterous!

just because I don’t exclusively play her I’m not allowed to have fun with her kit??? boy am I glad no mercy main is a dev xD

also please feel free to state your opinion! don’t let these mercy cops prevent you from it