Make DVA a thick DPS (OW2)

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Ok so current DVA just doesn’t fit that well in OW2. Her off-tank kit is still designed and best suited for 6v6.

If you peel as DVA you are giving the enemy tank free space and aren’t being that useful compared to 6v6, and if you play more aggressively most other tanks has better offensive capabilities than you. Looks at JK

Can we change her into a thick DPS in OW2? Here is what I suggest;

  • Remove her movement penalty :running_woman:

  • Buff her overall firepower :mechanical_arm:

  • Remove DM and… give her a flamethrower! :fire:

Hell yeah baby, now she’s fun to play as! :relieved:

Yay or nay?

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Question.

Would the mech shrink or would dva just get shorter :thinking:

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I feel like she’d just become bastion 2.0…

btw you didn’t mention nerfing her health at all … because there’s no way a dps should be walking around with like 500hp + armor health.

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Just let Dva have decent damage in ow2 pls…

All the aoe heals just destroy her chances of getting reliable kills.

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Fair enough I didn’t consider this, I guess we would have to see how she would perform first if she ever got some changes.

I just want her movement penalty gone! :cry:

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I think the devs probably forgot about DVA when they decided on 5v5. I would be very sad to see her changed to a dps, but I’m not sure solo tank DVA will work.

Removing DM would be really sad. It’s such an iconic part of her kit. However we do need a hero with a flamethrower.

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Ya, this is more of a meme suggestion but I wouldn’t mind having a flamethrower :fire:

Or they could just buff DM to make it more consistent in 5v5?

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im sure they are gonna do something about dva. question is what… real curious what their decision will be. if its just flat number increases that would be boring unless its inflated by A LOT lol. kinda hoping for something new or similar to a rework. just a little one

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I think the problem is DM is arguably one of the strongest abilities in the game of used correctly. So I’m not sure how they would buff it.

Dva is just such an off tank that I’m not sure how she could ever be a main tank.

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Just… buff her, she needs buffs.

Remove the movement speed penalty when shooting completely.

Give hero a bit more DM uptime, oh and remove that stupid 1 second delay it has on it please.

Reduce her weapon spread a tiny bit more.

Decrease “Call Mech” ult charge, seriously, getting demeched as Dva sucks, it’s like dying, you’re basically useless until you get your mech back.

Then, she might be good…

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Part of the problem is that because of that crit zone she’s effectively always walking around with less HP than advertised.

I think these are all good suggestions.

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I think reworking her into a DPS is a safer bet than leaving her as a tank going forward. Her kit doesn’t work as a solo tank. Either that or remove pilot mode and buff her survivability.

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The problem is she’d have a BIG hitbox for a dps though right?

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I’m not sure they can significantly buff her survivability unless they decide to remove pilot mode. Removing that however would kill her flavor as a tank. I’m in favor of reworking her into a DPS instead.

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I’d be fine with losing pilot mode when you’re killed personally. Keep it for when she ults so you’d still see it sometimes. Can’t imagine they’d let her keep DM as a dps and frankly eating ults is one of the things I enjoy most about her.

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I think she should have a dash on cooldown when de-meched to increase her survivability in OW2. And yeah, a tiny increase in mech charge on landed shots.

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In order to be a fun tank in OW2 she needs to be able to play aggressively like Winston, Ball, and Doomfist. The reason she can’t is that she isn’t nearly as disruptive or mobile as Ball or Doomfist and her Matrix is an unreliable defense tool that is bypassed by very common and important abilities such as Brig’s whipshot, Lucio’s soundwave, and Sigma’s accretion. Matrix doesn’t help her isolate a target like Winston’s bubble which not only protects him from off angles while attacking, but also blocks most forms of healing.

Compared to Winston, D.Va is more vulnerable to off angles, easier to knocback or cc, has to burn through more healing, has a slower burst, her burst is harder to execute, and her damage is harder to land. All those factors combine to make it so that D.Va can not play nearly as aggressively as the other dive tanks.

That doesn’t even get into how absolutely detrimental her second life passive is.

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If they make her a thick dps can she get thighs like mei?

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I mean, have you seen Tokki’s legs? Pure oatmeal.

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Im down for the no penalty while firing but thats it, blizzard cant buff her damage output without nerfing her health and armor. There is a reason why the highest dps tanks have very little HP apart from hog since he’s in a weird spot right now. I would hate the game if dva dealt more damage on top of what she already has. She can mitigate a ton of damage already with her mek, her rockets deal a ton of damage where she can delete a 200hp easily and her primary does deal a ton of damage. Her only problem is when she slows down, thats the one thing I always hated about playing dva or orisa.

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