So Xbox has had native M+K support for a while now and PS4 has always had it. Now that’s it’s native, the playing field is level.
When is OW getting M+K support on console?
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They arent. MK on console is pay to win.
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That’s unfortunate. I was hoping for a cheaper alternative to get some more out of the game.
I think Blizzard has mentioned, they have no desire of implementing MB & K control on console? KB & M has just to many advantages over controller. It would be “unfair” to the rest of that specific console playerbase. 
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I want to get a set up for my PS4. I just wish they would give the console version the same options.
I think on console you can only apply one button to each action. Whereas on PC you can make one action be done with two different keys.
The Elite Controller has advantages over a normal controller too and that isn’t banned. Everyone has equal access to what they want to use.
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While this true, not everyone has the extra income to spend 100+ on said controller or special MK & K for that specific console.
Aka ^ That.
Just not allowing M & KB is easier, I think in Blizzard mind. The “pro” controller, I feel may be in a grey area.
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Right. But one is allowed and the other is not. It doesn’t make sense. They should both be allowed.
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I would only be OK with M/KB to be added if you faced PC players only. That I would support with cross play. Other games have done something similar. However, people that want to play controller v controller should retain that option without having to face M/KB. M/KB is such a huge advantage with aiming ability, it’s not even close to a comparison with an elite controller. An elite controller just gives you the ability to hit more buttons at once, which a player could still do if they changed their grip type. Even still, even with longer thumb sticks, it’s no where near as good as M/KB.
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If a MK user is so much better than a controller user then it’s still a moot point as the game SHOULD be ranking you around your skill level regardless of what you’re using.
And I would agree to playing against PC players if the mouse sensitivities were the same across both, but PC is on a different level. It couldn’t work as is.
This is mostly true. Not sure about the grip though. I can’t imagine how you could change it to get the same output. Also, longer sticks aside, you can actually change the sensitivities of the sticks for way more precision than a traditional controller. It’s nothing like a MK, true, but it IS way better than a normal controller.
Claw grip, I helped put on fortnite summer skirmishes and there were players using controller against PC players and doing well. They use a claw grip which enables them to hit all the buttons. My brother also plays OW with a claw grip and won’t switch to an elite because he can hit the buttons without problems.
To the ranking point, sure, but you’d put people in lower ranks than they deserve. Mechanics are not the most important, but they are a big factor. Especially DPS.
This is a false equivalency if i ever saw one. The ONLY thing a beefed up controller and MKB have in common is they can both be called an advantage. But a bike and a car can both be called vehicles!
Heres another one:
If youre playing golf, you have an advantage if you are using a really good club or ball. Totally fine. Yeathere are instances of nonconforming stuff being illegal but this is analogy, and the point of this analogy is to say there is a HUUUUUGE difference between a premium club and ball and shooting a golfball out of a cannon.
The degree to which they offer an advantage, and one being acceptable and the other being tantamount to cheating, is something that has been recognized by any tournament (allows supped-up controllers but not mkb) or official body on console, since forever. They allow suped up controllers. They dont allow mkb. For obvious reasons.
I have given up on Blizz fixing the Mouse and Keyboard issue on this game. It’s been over a year and half since Jeff said they were working on combating M+KB users.
I think it could be argued that the premium club and ball is still comparable to the M+K as the person using the premium club and ball is still a human being. To me shooting a golf ball out of a cannon would equate to, in this scenario, some kind of AI playing the game since the person really isn’t doing anything.
Even completely agreeing with your statement has no bearing on the proposition though. If Blizzard just allowed native M+K controls, everyone would have the option and it would still be just as fair. I could understand if the cheapest you could get a M+K for was some outrageous amount, but from my research (excuse my naivety) you can get them for fairly cheap - comparable to a normal console controller. It would be pretty accessible to everyone.
With all due respect, M+K isn’t even that common on console so it’s not like a big problem the team have to fix. Plus most of the time M+K users use an adapter that can’t be traced since it still requires the controller on. So this means M+K users do in fact still use a controller but only as a way to connect the M+K into the console. That’s why they’re not easy to detect
Issues with my analogy noted hahaha XD
For me if blizzard gave us native mkb support and cross play this would not be my most ideal situation, but it would be an acceptable solution and preferable to the state of console play now.
My ire and the intended recipient of my analogy are people who see nothing wrong with using a xim when the vast majority of the playerbase is using a controller because they think its -not- unfair. When it clearly is.
And a fair amount of MKB users often argue that point because they cant acknowledge that its NOT a matter of comfort and an arbitrary restriction, it is using a device that allows you to utilize the full dexterity of one’s arm with the travel distance and optimization of it only limited by the size of your table WITH aim assist versus the vast majority of people using their thumb with a control radius the size of a quarter.
I find the idea that someone could compare a suped-up controller to a MKB emulator just silly is all.
EDIT: as JUSTIFICATION for using xim. Totally get that xim was never mentioned. But ive seen enough of these debates to know the “xim isnt cheating” are out there
I can see both sides of the argument. M+K IS vastly superior to a controller and therefore it’s not fair. The flip side is that everyone has equal opportunity to buy one and therefore it is fair.
But I just thought of something… The game was designed for PC. There are a lot of characters in the game that honestly just don’t do well at all on console. Pharah isn’t a problem on PC because her hitscan enemies are using a mouse. On console, however, she can play largely the same and get the same or even better results because her hitscan weakness is much harder to perform at the same level with a controller. Widowmaker requires dead-on accuracy that’s hard to achieve with a controller. Genji needs access to all his abilities and jumps without having to sacrifice his aim virtually all simultaneously in order to perform well. Should these types of characters just not be picked on console because their value with a controller is lower? Should we all be relegated into picking Reaper and Mei because their value is (even on PC, but VASTLY on console) easier to achieve? Or can a person use a M+K in order to unlock their character’s potential despite its unbecoming nature?
Let me know your thoughts!
Fortnite can do it by means of input method why can everyone else. Just because a game supports controller and mouse and keyboard doesn’t mean they have to play together.
What you mate don’t understand is that the current adapters are only emulators who convert mouse inputs into controller inputs so that they are still controller input jnformation… You can’t turn faster, can’t bind more buttons and need to set up everything properly which takes a lot of time and practice.
Even if they would support the input devices it is worse thab on pc so crossplay would still not be possible… I use mkb since some month and I am still worse than I have been with controller… It is also a more moba game and only widow and ashe and maybe mccree benefit a little bit from better aim… Most of the game is teamwork and gamesense and not aim… Give a silver mkb and he will max get to gold lol… Give a diamond mkb (like me) and he will probably drop until he finds perfect settings ans then slowly get back up…
Dude the console version of OW has been programmed for Controller so the aim assist is actually very bad for mkb… The current mkb options are feeling sh*t its not like pc at all. People who think that mkb on OW console is so good have never tried it… If they would have the choice most wouldn’t even want it exept some hit scan mains…