picked up lucio again after like a 3 year hiatus
his gun actually feels so strong right now
survivability feels fine, in turn he has a hand cannon now
18 damage felt bad, but 22 feels almost illegal with how lethal it is
i’m not sure how long it will last but i’m going so savor every last moment with it
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About 2 weeks. Gotta make as many widow players swap as possible before that
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They will 99% nerf his damage to 20. 22 definitely is too much. I am seeing him in all of my games. On Clash he is single handedly enabling stomps and these 3 minutes long matches you can’t react too.
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that’s funny you say that
i got so tired of widow killing my team i took matters into my own hands
He’s gonna be nerfed before I even find the desire to play
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The low skill dps player whining has already started. Only a matter of time before Blizzard gets tired of the whining and reverses all the support damage buffs.
Edit: I was speaking in general, not about the OP. I failed to make that clear. They were lauding the fun they were having with Lucio and his new damage and dreading potential nerfs.
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i’m sorry what? i don’t even play dps i’m talking from an objective standpoint playing as lucio
read
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It’s balanced out by the way that any time I pick Lucio, our Juno will focus on damage dealing. No, no, it’s fine. I’ll swap. As usual. Sigh
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Lucio is not really a problem and might be too slow for that since Sombra makes the game already unplayable.
Lucio is only slow if you don’t know how to wall ride
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I meant, I do not even want to spawn as Widow thanks to Sombra.
Lucio might be a bit annoying but it can be fun an fair fight, Sombra makes it unplayable for me.
Thats what I meant with him being to slow, not his speed for traversing the map.
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Yeah he’s getting nerfed but it’s going to be fun until then.
I really don’t mind Lucio being op, I always enjoy dueling them, they always make me smile even if they manage to kill me. And right now they’re extra aggressive which means I get to eat frog for dinner more often.
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You definitely haven’t come across a good Lucio on the opposing team…
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I wasn’t talking talking specifically about you. Should have made that more clear. My bad. I understood what you were saying.
I was trying get across that whining threads have already started and it’s a matter of time before supports get nerfed.
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True. Nobody whines more than bad dps players because their egos get shattered whenever they get rolled by a support
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I have, but as I said its kind of fun an fair (especially compared to Sombra). You can at least hear and see him in advance.
The question is, what do you define as good? For a bronze Player a Gold Lucio can be good. For me a former Diamond player its Diamond/Masters.
Likely not. They buffed him so that he gets to duel Tracer again to keep her in check. making him deal 20 damage will make so that he needs a melee/boop again to finish off tracer after 4 headshots.
Well, if you find it funny, it’s your personal perception, I don’t share it.
In DPS I am a high Diamond and although I constantly go up to master I almost always end up going down to Diamond again.
What seems strange to me is that as a player of my same elo you tell me that the current Lucio is fun, hell no, he is a killing machine and the buff made him stupidly lethal, his current damage needs a nerf, I can bet whathever you want on he’s going to end up getting a nerf, so no, it’s definitely not fun to run into a Lucio player who currently has a decent aim.
If anything needs a nerf, they should target Soundwave’s damage instead. Players should be rewarded with good damage if they can aim. And besides, more than half of the other supports have higher DPS than Lúcio even after the buff. He is fine.
Here is proof for those who refuse to do basic testing and/or reading:
Lúcio’s current DPS is about 94.6 now, 71.5 when you factor in reload (which you should because of how often he does it), and that’s assuming you hit every projectile every single time. Realistically, this won’t happen and makes his effective DPS much lower.
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Ana - 87.5, 77.8 with reload. Lower in the short run, higher in the long run, while also being more consistent with faster projectiles and no falloff hitscan ADS. She can’t headshot, so the better consistency makes sense.
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Baptiste - 127.5, 109 with reload. Is also hitscan. Combine this with his higher health, better healing, and immortality field, he is allowed to get away with all of this, but Lúcio needs nerfs?
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Brigitte - 75. This is more than Lúcio with reload factored in. She has much more consistent damage, but has less range as a trade-off. With Lúcio’s HP nerf, she only needs 5 swings to kill him, down from 6.
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Illari - 77.77, 68 with reload. Is hitscan with a larger hitbox than usual for said hitscan. The hotfix just nerfed her when her DPS wasn’t really that high to begin with. Yet Bap somehow went untouched?
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Juno - 109.09, 93.55 with reload. Is hitscan, but she can’t headshot. The hotfix just buffed her by quite a bit. She’s now on par with Kiriko (though Kiri would theoretically be higher because she CAN headshot).
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Kiriko - 109.1, 97.3 with reload. Faster projectiles, and single shot so she gets full damage per click, unlike Lúcio’s four round bursts which are subject to a lot more error.
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Lifeweaver - 132(!), 85 with reload. Honestly kind of insane, and I don’t understand how people can possibly ask for more.
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Mercy - 100, 78 with reload. Most Mercy players I’ve seen never really shoot long enough for this to matter, but she does technically do more than Lúcio. She ALWAYS did.
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Moira - 65. Way more consistent, so the lower damage makes sense, although with damage orb, she does surpass him.
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Zenyatta - 120, 104.3 with reload. Discord orb makes these numbers 25% larger.
So yeah, with reload taken into account, Lúcio is the third worst. Without it, he is surprisingly average.
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Anyone who knows how to aim and has good movements (in short, has skills) knew that was a deceptive nerf.
Almost all the heroes that got compensation buff for losing 25 hp ended up being better. Sombra, Lucio, Mercy, Kiriko. Echo and Hanzo got the shaft while Moira is whatever.
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