1.) 8 dmg per pellet (headshot 32 dmg)
2.) Soundwave does not interrupt primary fire burst (4 pellets)
3.) No reload (Unlimited clip)
4.) Sound Barrier will affect Lucio the same time as ult cast (it will not affect teammates until Sound Barrier makes contact to the ground)
5.) Sound Barrier last 1 second longer (maybe +150hp)
6.) Bring back the ability to one-shot with Sound Barrier
7.) Amp it up cooldown reduce by 2 seconds
8.) Micro-reduce cooldown for mele
9.) 6% increase in projectile primary fire size
X.) 12.5m âCrossfadeâ area/radius and 16 hp per second self-healing
(maybe) 205 hp
the biggest lucio nerf known to man
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His pellets make sense. 4 beats a bar. 4 pellets/bullets per burst. Making his dmg to 8 makes sense because most DJs loop 8 bar - 16 bar (maybe 32, max 64). Iâm a Dj and Lucio is the reason why I started playing overwatch. Iâm 100% frog main! It makes more sense for Lucio not to have a reload as he is a DJ; an important part of DJing is looping and keeping the flow going, Lucioâs needs to feel more like a flow-state hero than he is now, at times he could be off-beat. His ult needs to feel more like a hit record.
Reloading and Soundwave interrupting shots really kills the Lucioâs flow. It is really hard to track how much ammo is left, or worst you shoot one bullet then have to reload or cancel that reload to Soundwave enemy players away and then finish that reload perhaps even after an Amp it up animation. Itâs hard to remember or visually identify if the reload was completed. Iâve played thousands of hours of Lucio, I speak for all frog mains these changes will make Lucio better to play as, with or against. This will make him smoother. allowing more players to enjoy Lucio without giving him the crazy kill power he has now.
You donât speak for me, I remember when I was a 2k hour main, even though that was a long time ago. I want nothing to do with such a thing. Go away with your nerfs and handrails and learn how to track your ammo.
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lol itâs not a nerf or a handrail, itâs better quality of life. Itâs underwhelming and just not fun shooting a few bullets or burst then having to either reload or use âAmp it upâ then reload after the âAmp it upâ animation. It doesnât make sense with his lore to hit for 22 dmg or then possibility only have 1 bullet left in the clip. Lucio is a DJ; his kit needs to feel more like an endless-flow type of hero and not let his kit delay or stop anything. Lucio needs to perform more like a DJ/show artist. The show must go on!
lucio was beyond trash when his bullets did 16 damage per bullet, i cant even imagine what 8 body shot and 16 HS would be. thats atrociously garbage damage, the reddit lucio playstyle will be dumpstered. even with inf ammo, thats like saying sombra would be better with her bullets reduced from 8 dmg to 5, but she has inf ammo
I totally understand that, but I think you are not weighing the fact I said that âSoundwaveâ wouldnât stop the bulletsâ flow nor would the âAmp it upâ animation delay any fight time.
that wouldnât change anything. soundwaves animation barely limits how much damage he can deal, same with amp it up.
Still, you are underestimating how fun and equal it will be. Lucio will be able to hurt down one taps and be better in 1v1s. Where power is lost, it is made up elsewhere, if you read my 1st post on this thread, you will see how fun Lucio could be. 
he wouldnât be able to hurt down one taps, because his damage would be in the gutter. if you increase the projectile size too much, then youâll most definitely never hit a headshot unless you hit wildly above the head which can be very inconsistent.
and OW2 isnât about 1v1s, and heroes shouldnât be balanced around 1v1s. 205 is also uneven, and it makes no sense. if you really want lower health, then just reduce it to 200 at that point. he didnt need a health nerf in the first place, and itâll only make him worse.
i respect your opinion and your attempted changes at thoughtfully rebalancing him, but i believe this would make him the worst support in the game.
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Iâm just going to disagree. The damage is far too low, health is also very low and at an oddly specific number, etc.
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Send it back to the kitchen man. I get it, funny music reference, but 8 dmg? EIGHT??
Even Mercyâs piddly pool pistol does 20 a shot. This is almost on par with Ramattraâs staff, but even that is a very rapid stream of projectiles, and he has Nemesis to buff up his numbers.
All the other changes are either goofy or too hand-holding. Sound Barrier being appled to Lucio on cast is about the only thing I have a positive remark about; would save a lot more clutch ult fails, but even then, takes away the risk and dumbs things down.
He is already the most fun hero to me, and Iâll tell you now; if they made changes like this, I would never bother playing him again.
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If you finish reading my 1st post on this thread, you will see that I also suggested that his âAmp it upâ cooldown be reduce, this with no reloading and having 4 bullets always ready
to kill will make us froggies unstoppable, 205 hp makes froggies killable
No, I did. Iâm saying that with your suggested changes he will still be overall nerfed compared to how he is currently.
I read what you said. I just think that there are multiple things here that would make him weaker. Sorry.
Edit: Moreover, Iâm not convinced Lucio really needs a rework to be honest. He has had plenty of times where heâs been fantastic, and he has a dedicated playerbase that enjoys him already.
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These changes sound completely out of touch with reality.
Thank for the notes and fair enough, great opinion! What if I; changed the headshot dmg from 16 to 32⌠Thats literally perfect!?
Okay Iâm not gonna be harsh as everyone else seems to be but like your trying to change not just change but rework which is a more drastic word then people think that I know gets thrown around a lot.
Your suggesting a rework for one of the communities virtually all around agreed most well designed and balanced heros my guy⌠Itâs like proposing to rework Junker QueenâŚ
Because at that point the answer is âI meaaan just why thoâ?
Report Everyone in this thread for game play sabotage, intentionally feeding and AFK.
Report for spam. âWooh- killed itâ
Good Lucio players donât usually need a full clip to kill a squishy and all your change does is dumpster his ttk to a point where he canât kill anything. Never cook again
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No, itâs a huge nerf in every regard, only to fulfill your DJ reverse cosplay fantasies. Sorry, Iâm not gonna be nearly as nice as everyone else, youâre proposing to gut the hero completely.