Gm win rates
Orisa %56
Rein 49
Ball 50
Winston 49
Can we just agree by now horse meta needs to be nerfed asap… We don’t need another stagnant meta for 1 yr.
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You forgot the best part, her insane pick rate too. And somehow still having such a high win rate when there is like 1.50 orisa per game, often resulting in mirror match for 50% win rate on the game.
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Her shield needs nerfed… But I am mostly fine with her, herself. Horse meta is fine. I just think she wins the barrier war far too easily.
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The best part is every loves fighting against an unbreakable sheild. It’s super healthy for the game.
If a team commits to sheild break and the opposing orisa stays on orisa
The dmg blocked ends up being around 65-80k…shm
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Revert the tank and support nerfs, presto, no more Orisa.
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Orisa was a mistake, stupid addition, only annoying bunker.
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What happened thought? Why is Orisa suddenly meta?
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This is literally what a NIche hero is supposed to be. Good to the point of exclusion in their specific slot, but kinda bad everywhere else. Toss in the nerfs of D.Va and the resulting loss of syngergy with Rein and Zaray as well as the ladder’s general hatred of GOATs at the moment, as well as the fact that there will always be at least one tank with insane stats because there’s only 2 anchor tanks to choose from, and this is easier explained away than claiming Orisa is OP
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oh no reinhardt isn’t in every game anymore whatever will we do!!!11!
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The thing is, Orisa is in every game now.
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then again, orisa rised more from other tank nerf than her own buff, so maybe it should be time to buff other rather than nerfing her?
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Well, yeah. There’s only 2 anchor tanks (not main tanks, anchor tanks. ONes with shields that the team stands behind) in the game, so if one is picked less the other is going to pick more.
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Brigitte happened. The devs nerfed tanks and supports and kept buffing DPS to try to stop the goats meta she brought. Now Orisa is the best tank because everyone else was made worse than her.
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People found out that she’s the best main tank for ladder play since she can outplay everyone, defend herself while shielding her team and she doesn’t care about CC like Rein do.
She can solo tank too, with all the dps at every rank she’s the best solo tank imo.
Add that she’s been buffed every patch and you get a meta hero.
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Okay which do you prefer?
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It happened pretty much like GOATS. Some team decided to try a new comp - it turned off to be actually good - voila! a new meta!
It was here all along, but no one ever tried to play it, because there was a meta alredy, and meta is always the best choice, right?
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I like that shes added
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She’s about the same as back when she was a troll pick, what changed were the supports.
What kept her in F tier were Genji and Tracer. Even when the enemy team wasn’t running a proper dive. Genji and Tracer were popular enough to be in every game, and they killed Orisa on sight. Shields were useless against flankers who pretty much ignored it completely and Orisa was F tier for the entire duration of dive comp.
Then came two supports, Moira took out Genji, and Brigitte took out Tracer. Only then did Orisa start becoming viable. She still has the same weakness as before, but the flankers who were able to ignore her shields were handled by the new supports. Orisa was still getting run over, but she’s atleast playable now.
Then GOATS became a thing and the devs started nerfing the supports and tanks in it. Lucios nerf meant less mobility for the attackers and Orisa was no longer getting railroaded as much. That and the rest of the tank nerfs (Zarya nerf, D.va nerf, Brigitte nerf, Armor nerf, etc.) broke the synergy needed for GOATS.
But the nerfs went too far and we basically ended up in a situation where the two bottom tanks (Orisa and Roadhog) ended up at the top because the five tanks above them got nerfed into the ground.
I get the feeling that the flankers are going to be looked into next since they were the ones that were shutting down bunker before.
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Orisa does not need nerfs, D.Va and Winston need buffs (which will in turn benefit Hammond), boops need to be toned down, and CC in general needs to be reduced.
Orisa isn’t meta because she suddenly got good. In a low ground fight you could still rush her down with a Rein Zarya or Winston D.Va, the trouble is that those tanks (aside from Zarya, who is only “bad” right now because Rein isn’t meta) are TRASH right now. All the CC and burst damage and nerfs have finally reached a tipping point, and Orisa is just the least bad main tank. Hog still isn’t good, he’s just along for the ride.
Also, I’d like to point out that despite people say Orisa is everywhere, she clearly is not. Rein STILL out picks her across the game. 85% of players see Rein more often. When Rein is/was meta, he was actually in almost every game across all ranks, so lets not pretend these situations are remotely comparable.
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50-50
I don’t think having only one of them every single game is good.