Like Mercy, Genji was not made op "on purpose". No

Devs just didn’t foresee the effect.
Just like they didn’t make reworked Mercy op on purpose.

The only hero that we can say was made op on purpose, was Brigitte. That’s why she’s so difficult to fix because she was design to be fundamentally broken.

But Genji doesn’t have a fundamental design problem so he can be fixed without much trouble. He can be easily rebalanced with things like ult charge increase, revert deflect back to 1.5s.

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But they’re not going to do that though.

Soooo… next!

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Is literally everyone’s suggestion, and it’s a very logical one, and they still won’t do it. :roll_eyes: At least ult charge requirement has to go up with him being better outside of ult, and how fast he charges it now.

That’s what we have experimental mode for and what we gave feedback about.

Didn’t matter to them, unlike owl views.

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That’s funny, because the community has been saying this for literal (and I mean that very much in the literal sense of the word literal) years.

I don’t always stand by what the general population makes claims of, but this one was pretty spot freaking on.

Lol you give a hero that was already good multiple buffs with no nerfs to balance him out.

They knew exactly what would happen

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Then why is it taking them so long to fix him if it can be done so easily?

I disagree. They’ve made clear that their current design philosophy is post-modernist. Like, the concept that there’s no such thing as objective reality, only perception. It rejects the idea that there is such a thing as balance, rather opting for variety instead. They’re directly choosing to make something new op and then toning it back down. And directly intentionally making things unplayable and leaving them there to just not have them played anymore, like dva.

I’m sorry but DPS powercreep occurring during a “make or break” year for OWL is just a little too convenient for me.

If they nerf Genji before the grand finals, I’m wrong and it was just paranoia. But I’m willing to bet money they won’t.

They knew exactly what they were doing. Boosting OWL numbers at the expense of the playerbase.

I normally don’t buy into conspiracy theories like this, but this one has been plain as day.

even as a genji player i feel like this was on purpose

they want double shield gone. Buffing dive heroes to be strong enough to roll over it will make people less likely to try and run it in the first place. Hopefully we can see some buffs to winston and ball in the next patch to be the nail in the coffin to double shield forever because this hellhole meta needs to die

Tbf we haven’t had any changes recently so I woldn’t be surprised if they’re testing that.

This makes no sense.

Kit vs balance is a thing.

Mercy was just nerfed. They didn’t take away chain beams. They didn’t remove the free flight etc

Things. Were. Nerfed. Brig was nerfed. That’s what balance is.

Overpowered means nothing to kit. Genji is overpowered based on his balance. No one is hammering to remove deflect.

If Blizzard wanted to make double shield gone through hard balance, they would have buffed other tanks, like dive tanks. Buffing Genji didn’t make double shield gone as you can see.

I dunno what you mean here. How is that diff from Genji?

Literally nothing is my point

Brig and mercy got toned down. So should genji. Right back to where he was…at least for oevrall balance purposes.

I don’t think he should be reverted. Just hammered later when we want widow to be meta

they buffed genji as well as buffing dva, if dive were to have come back without genji getting buffs, you would be seeing tracer + doom/echo and 0 genji play

Unfortunately I highly doubt it’s going to happen. In an ideal world, that thing in the patch notes - “we’ll keep a close eye on his overall power” - would have led to them immediately reverting every change they made and issuing a very good explanation with a lot of apologies. We all know that won’t happen, though, because they refuse to admit mistakes and they will change everything else about every other hero if that’s what it takes to justify this buff.

I think it’s highly likely if and only if genji hits meta status. As the go to definition of bringing forth not only him as a meta, but dive as.a whole.

If not, I expect nerfs or changes to non dive heroes to promote dive.

geoff goodman himself said he regret putting double jump passive on genji.

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Yeah but that doesn’t mean it was a design problem. He just said it made him difficult to balance, but also that it’s a crucial part of his kit design. As it turned out, Genji was never broken because of that. He was never too strong until now and double jump is not the reason.

I agree. At this point, this kind of terrible mistake would not take me as a surprise, though, since the devs are not doing a good job balancing the game. But I’m pretty sure they knew exactly what they were doing, and they don’t care about what the community has to say.