- Spreading hate won’t bring out positivity. It just makes the game and it’s community worse.
- Discriminating groups of people based on who they play as having particular “negative traits” will not invite new players, but will instead alienate them.
- Siding with toxicity is in and of itself, toxic.
- Being disrespectful in your delivery during a discussion with someone does more harm than good, weakening any previous points you’ve intended to make.
- The one who loses first in any debate is the one who resorts to depending on lies, insults, belittling, bigotry, harassment, or bullying to make their point.
- Humility is the one of the hardest things to have online. Admitting your own faults instead of blaming others for your own frustrations is the first step towards being a better person, both online and offline.
- Witch hunting people who “main” a hero makes you no better than the people you hate.
- It’s okay to feel triggered. It’s not okay to consciously trigger others. Instead, take a break from the ordeal and do something that makes you happy instead. Petty play-by-play verbal assaults are never worth your time or energy.
- It’s a game, stereotyping anonymous people who play a virtual hero in a fictional video game is incredibly narrow-minded. Unless you personally know those individuals, you have no place speaking about their mannerisms or how they “are to act.”
- Making “My main vs Your Main” flame wars online is both pointless, time-consuming, and a waste of bandwidth. Nobody wins, and there is no prize.
- Positivity will always beat hatred. If you dwell on making everyone’s life miserable, you won’t last very long in this game.
- Studies have shown that being positive grants you more friendships and relationships that benefit your life than being negative. So you may as well share the positive, it’s better for you and everyone else!
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It’s sad how most of these things you say that are toxic still don’t get you suspended or banned from the forums or in game.
Promoting toxicity does nothing to the mods or devs.
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I do not agree or disagree with anything you have stated.
One question.
Who are you to tell people what the rules of friendly engagement are?
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What if they are witches?!?
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It’s less of a “Who are you” situation but rather a “Why are you being a jerk” kind of situation.
It’s not hard to tell when someone’s just being a jerk. Most of what OP mentions falls under the “It’s pretty obvious” Category.
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I’m ok with it, sometimes people need to vent…better to let them vent then have them hold it inside. Who are you to tell people how to behave?
Some of the statement bear something regarding more of strong opinions then anything.
for example “Siding with toxicity is in and of itself, toxic.”
In my opinion using the word “toxic” is a scapegoat. It is a word the gaming community hijacked to describe a multitude of experience. I hate, yes I said it, I hate the use of the word toxic. It is a lazy way to describe behavior ranging from using a term that one person may dislike; “I hate people who play Widowmaker” through the statement “kill yourself”.
No, neither of these things are nice, but one is vastly more abrasive. Saying its simply “toxic” leaves the reader with no point of reference.
When you’re defending someone who is literally throwing personal attacks at someone, you’re being toxic. End of story. Most of the time this happens when the person attacking agrees with your opinion or you agree with theirs while the person being attacked is on the other side.
That’s what OP means.
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Not going to attempt to give the word “toxic” valid meaning though?
Simply stating that if one person believes something to be “toxic” it is?
I feel this is the very root of the problem.
In fact, I believe your response to my comment is very abrasive. My take from how you express your feelings on the subject is you are a strong support of “toxic” free environment. If so, how can you be so “toxic” towards me?
I think you answered your own thing here.
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Criticism and explanation aren’t toxic. Almost every single person would agree to that.
How can anyone agree to a baseless statement?
In truth I don’t believe you were "toxic towards me.
But with your claim the minute I said you were then the statement I made held truth.
“Criticism and explanation aren’t toxic. Almost every single person would agree to that.”
Under what basis are you able to explain what “Almost every single person” believes?
If someone like me (who does not necessarily support a toxic free environment) told you that your attitude was toxic, would it make you feel better? Rather than just adhering to the general principle of treating people with respect, if you are instead a detriment to someone else’s experience, they are going to experience toxicity. It is as simple as that. Is it necessarily your fault? No. But does it ruin the game for some people? Yes.
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Well said my friend!
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I agree that the main stereotypes are dumb if people take them seriously and use them to hurt / insult others. The DPS vs. Support main war is especially tiresome.
However, I’m all for a good joke. Stereotypes are fine as long as they’re used in a comedic, non-serious way.
Now excuse me while I go melee and spray every wall while spamming “Hiya!”
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I know you mean well with your post OP, but at the end of the day, it’s the internet and people just like to argue because they’re anonymous more or less. I hate that humanity’s like that but it’s not going to go away anytime soon
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I really don’t think that you’re trying to troll here but I do think you have a very poor understanding of the human condition and psychology.
Common sense tells me that if someone is attacking someone else in game (and it’s not for retaliation) for any reason, they’re being toxic. Common sense tells me that calling someone an idiot for disagreeing with you is toxic. Common sense tells me that telling someone that they need more schooling to understand a very unnecessarily long and complex sentence is toxic.
It’s almost like if a NASA scientist walked up to you on the street, started explaining things to you in a way that only other rocket scientists can understand and then saying “Well, you need to go to school to learn what I just said because you’re dumb.”
It’s a very rude and toxic thing to do. Common sense tells me that.
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It would make me feel better if you said
“Your attitude is abrasive”
“Your attitude is discriminatory”
“Your attitude is Poor”
“Your attitude is elitist”
“Your attitude is defeatist”
Any of those are better then labeling something as “toxic”. Using “toxic” to describe points that vary from one end of the spectrum to the other ends up placing people who are slightly rude in the same category as those who spew vitriol every chance they get.
The anonymity of the internet can’t even be used as an excuse anymore, because I’m finding people in real life are becoming more and more rude as well.
A person at the DMV this morning was a SUPER prick to my elderly father. I’m a very calm-natured person but I almost freaking lost it. Hope a bird crapped on his head when he left. >=/
Less and less people are doing things like holding doors open, getting things off shelves for older people, and just being genuinely polite in general.
Point is … yeah, I think people as a whole are just becoming more angry / entitled / whatever as time goes on. At least in America. It’s sad. =/
I know the internet is a factor, but think of it like this … If the internet was around and as popular as it is now in, say, 1930, do you really think it’d be this bad?
I have never trolled anything, EVER.
When I started playing video games on line in 2005 the word “toxic” wasn’t a thing.
It is disheartening to me that the vocabulary of the average person has devolved to the point where we can no longer explain the slight that has been committed.
Instead we just label everyone as toxic and move on. To be completely honest its just lazy. I hope to shed light on this any chance I can, because I don’t want to see people stop explaining things and just throwing around labels to justify their opinion.
I feel the same. Nowadays people are in their own tiny social bubble, everyone needs safe spaces, you’ll get attacked for being ‘chivalrous’ to females, you can get fired from your 10 year job for a bad tweet, you can offend anyone with anything, it’s borderline ‘wrong’ and demonized to be white, male, or heterosexual in a lot of situations etc. The climate of america was not this way back in the 90s or even early 2000s
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