Life of Platinum Support (EU) - part 2

Competitive Discussion
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Hey, I have another update with 8 games played. Not a good session, I have to rethink what to main for next time. I didnt climb anything this time and I actualy dropped back to 2504. Idk why, maybe I am switching too much to heroes I dont play often. I felt less focused too for some reason.

Playing around 2500 range in EU and there is practicaly zero communication in voice chat and its really killing me.

Here is link to my previous two updates:

Here are my new games:

– GAME 21 –
Winnable/loosable?: I dont think we could win.
Final SR: 2529
Result: LOSS
Map: Temple of Anubis
Replay code: H159C6
Heroes played: Zenyatta/Briggita
Special: Enemy team had smurf from higher elo on Doomfist
Notes: Enemy team had smurf + our players were blaming each other, toxicity during the match and at the end too. No voice communication in team. only trashtalking in chat.

– GAME 22 –
Winnable/loosable?:
Final SR: 2504
Result: LOSS
Map: Volskaya Industries
Replay code: Y2K69M
Heroes played: Zenyatta/Baptist/Mercy
Special:
Notes: Enemy team had Diamond Pharah, we had gold and low plat dps and they didnt have aim to deal with her on double hitscan. I did mistake by picking Baptiste after I was killed twice by Pharah. I dont really play him, but I wanted to try him against pharah. Wasnt good choice, I should just play Mercy right away. No communication in voice.

– GAME 23 –
Winnable/loosable?: We could lose, it was close match.
Final SR: 2527
Result: WIN
Map: Rialto
Replay code: EXF42N
Heroes played: Zenyatta/Ana/Briggita
Special:
Notes: Something was going on in chat whole match, but I honestly didnt have time to read it all to understand what was going on, people were talking about lucio throwing, but we had lucio not them. Our Luico was kind of Reddit lucio but I cannot say if he was trully trying to lose. It was more about having fun I presume. Match chat like 100 lines, everyone arguing. I was kind of confused by it. Nobody comunicated in voice btw.

– GAME 24 –
Winnable/loosable?: Probably it was winnable.
Final SR: 2504
Result: LOSS
Map: Eichenwalde
Replay code: VMB2SH
Heroes played: Zenyatta/Ana
Special:
Notes: Our tanks having really bad hero picks, everyone was begging them to switch but Hammond was too stubborn. No communication in voice chat.

– GAME 25 –
Winnable/loosable?: We could lose.
Final SR: 2527
Result: WIN
Map: Temple of Anubis
Replay code: PMMBGM
Heroes played: Zenyatta
Special:
Notes: Good match, enemy McCree was constantly going solo and everyone noticed and made fun of him :slight_smile: We won 2:1. I dont think I saw enemy Zarya ult once whole defend. Again nobody talking in voice chat.

– GAME 26 –
Winnable/loosable?: Yes I think match was loseable.
Final SR: 2551
Result: 2551
Map: Nepal
Replay code: M1T1MA
Heroes played: Zenyatta
Special:
Notes: Good match, Torb´s turret popped off in first round :). We won both round and enemy zarya said “report our dps” in match chat. No clue why, they played normaly.

– GAME 27 –
Winnable/loosable?: Yes, it was very close.
Final SR: 2527
Result: LOSS
Map: Rialto
Replay code: FHA5JE
Heroes played: Zenyatta/Briggita/Ana
Special:
Notes: We had pretty good defense but after they managed to push payload in last push we cound not stop them to the end. I tried to switch to ana, because they had pharah, but it didnt help and I did few bad decisions. We lost 2:3. No voice communication in team. Our ana was super toxic for no reason, guy playing her wasnt honestly ok. He had toxic response to anything said (good call outs) so I had to mute him. He was toxic in match chat too.

– GAME 28 –
Winnable/loosable?: Probably yes.
Final SR: 2504
Result: LOSS
Map: Kings Row
Replay code: Y4D0GM
Heroes played: Zenyatta/Mercy
Special:
Notes: Our dps were really bad and werent in voice chat either. Trio in voice was good and communicating in voice.

Thats all for this update.

Feel free to discusss or comment my gameplay if you want.

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I low key just copypasted this so I can start documenting my matches.

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update: Wow I had no idea how juicy these matches were. Like, I knew they were a circus but HOLY COW once you write it down it is a LOT

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Yeah, and you can see just games without chat and voice from my codes:) . And that part is the worst in EU, mostly only half of the team is even present in voice, rarely are people talking. If they are its often just to be toxic. Its honestly hell for anyone who like to solo q but want to communciate and play as team.

I am thinking about switching to US to play support role.

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I’m in NA fell from 3200 to 2650 this weekend on support. I think it’s the event, brings out the worst people and the most smurfs.

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Play moira if you want to win, you’ll get sick of her but you’ll get SR.

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Idk it should be for both sides tho. I think its the EU which is harder for heroes which require more communication or help when in danger. And players in EU in my elo doest care about others.

I can guarantee you that in EU if you fall of map with mercy, only in like 1/30 games someone will listen and will go help you to fly up.

Thanks for tip, i will probably tey it even when i am trash with her :slight_smile:

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Hey friend,
I just reviewed game 28. I have quite a bit of things to say to try and be helpful. I’m not trying to criticize you, I just saw some mistakes that maybe you can work on and get better. I know you’re a dps main, so I’ll try not to be too hard.

On the defense phase, to be fair, your team feeds their brains out through most of it. In that type of situation, it’s just best to help do what you can, enable them when you can, and be ready to disengage as soon as the fight is lost. Even if one or two of your team is still in the fight, it’s best to disengage and not feed the enemy ult charge.

At 2:03 Hanzo is in the window firing down at your team for free. You should be charging up and firing into the window. I see you do this at the choke. So I know you know to do it, I think you just didn’t think about it.

At 2:36 you should have used trans to get your team back to the choke. They are severely over extended. There’s no guarantee that they would have pulled back, but they were going to die if you didn’t.

You use trans at 2:46. The fight was already lost. Your team was down 3 players when you popped it. Since you didn’t use it at 2:36, you should have saved it. But don’t feel bad, your mei threw her ult away too. I do understand that you probably already had a plan to use trans for either grav or blizzard, so you probably used it reactionary.

At 4:41 you’re pushed all the way up to the fight. You can be all the way back with zen. It will allow you to disengage much faster also. Just try and not get pulled into the fight.

On attack, half your rezzes are good, and half are bad.
7:43 you get away with it, but in any higher level games, you would have instantly died. You were in front of the whole enemy team with no protection.
When you Rez Ashe, that’s a bad Rez. You get it off, but she dies right after, and you sacrifice your fully charged Zarya for it. Zarya might still have died, but I think she could have disengaged if you would have left the beam on her, and you were already down 3 players. So rezzing Ashe just fed the enemy more ult. You do disengage though and that was the right choice.

At 9:14 Moira is critical health in front of you. She fades back, you turn around and don’t see her, but you don’t look for her either. Instead, you latch back onto McCree. She calls for healing at 9:18 and you completely disregard it. She has to burn an orb to heal herself. You always need to take care of your other support.

The Rez on McCree at the choke was perfect. And so was the Rez at 11:49
I loved the valk at 12:55. It was ideal.

At 13:25 you GA right through a dragon and drop to 69hp. Don’t fly through dragons :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:.

At 14:53, that was good reaction to damage boost the dragon blade.

The last thing I want to say is, at the beginning of the attack phase, pocketing your fully charged zarya was the right choice, but more towards the end, you really should have been damage boosting the hanzo more than your tanks. He’s the better choice.
I hope this helps.

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Feel free to do it any time, i want to get better so any kind of help or tips are welcome, no hard feelings :slight_smile:

Thank you for the help, i will rewatch the match with your tips when i will be home from work.

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Not if your team sucks. Moira doesn’t really have that much carry potential. Her ability to make big plays seems to rely on the enemy being stupid bad.

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Good, it will work in my elo :rofl:

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It doesn’t work in plat because people don’t just isolate themselves to allow Moira to push in. So in that case she has to rely on the tanks to push in. Relying on anyone to do anything in this game is hopeless. The third option is to flank. I find flanking Moiras very easy to shut down. People have enough awareness to realize Moira is behind and will gang up on her most of the time. Her damage is extremely weak in groups. The last choice is to fling yourself forward with fade which is extremely risky and I usually just get punished for this so I don’t do it.

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I will have probably another update later today : ) I am at 2528 again, wish me luck :slight_smile: