Recently we have started to see the repercussions of all of the buffs they did to dps heroes during the goats meta.
In the OWL high rank scrims and comp (can’t say for anything else) reaper and Mei have been the most oppressive heroes ever. If one team doesn’t run a Mei they instantly lose, because Mei is super good at stopping dive, super good at protecting bunker comps, and super good at splitting rein comps. She has a primary fire that slows people so quickly and with a lucio next to her makes he unfun to play against and very oppressive.
Reaper on the other hand has so much lifesteal that they added to him he shoots at one tank and cannot die just because he is outhealing everything. Also because they added so many sound nerfs to him it is very hard to hear him unless you are only focusing on game audio.
I would really like to see some changes in the very near future to there heroes because together they make the game very unfun and unskillful.
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id rather watch reaper/mei than boring dive.
itll all change again when the patch hits & we add sigma.
they will let it sit for a month or 2 & see how it shakes out.
jeff already said they have plans for more changes but wanted to see how role lock works out.
they can do all the ptr testing they want, it still doesnt show what will happen in live
just chill for a bit.
owl doesnt even have the new brig yet
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mei is only JUST meta and even then, its not like she instantly stops dive.
mei without her abilties is just a fat dps that cant do much.
other than that im happy mei is finally in the spotlight 
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Reaper is still trash, he’s just a viable pick in this meta currently. Mei is the only problem, she’s a must pick currently, and outside of this meta she’s still complete cancer.
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Patience. She’s running around in a Nerfbat factory. My Mei-n will be hit soon enough with it (again. -100hp to wall was the last one), much like my co-main Sombra was nerfed hard.
Thanks OWL. Made the hero with the lowest winrate average across all ranks further neutered. Yay!
Didn’t people swear up and down that low elo players complaining about Reaper needed to git gud?
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What I don’t get is, how many different sources do you need before you make some changes to prevent this. This cannot be rocket science.
Just adjust the heroes to be more balanced. Instead its more like this:
4 weeks later:
- cool down on meis wall reduced by 1 sec.
HOLY 
AT THIS RATE WE’LL BE BALANCED BY 2089
You forgot how essential and good she is in stalling points and getting extra objective percentage.
This playstyle mentality came out of goats i think. Cuz even if you win against Mei, you won 60% slower than you would against anyone else. And Objective time, paylod meters are everything.
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That sadly only applies to the higher ranks. On lower ranks he is the most oppressive hero we have at the moment. When people cant constantly click heads a shotgun more hp and lifesteal is straight up the best kit you can get.
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Mei and Reaper need no changes, and the only reason mei is being used in OWL is because of orisa hog. She can split his hook which basically means prevent an entry pick which lets 80% of fights be won.
Orisa needs to be looked at and other tanks need buffs (mostly rein)
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Let’s not talk about reaper and mei and continue to nerf sombra and mercy. They are still really annoying and I don’t want to see them in MY game that I’ve bought with MY money.
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Can someone explain me why if mei+reapper is meta, there is no phara against? Like pharmercy looks like viable pick. What is an issue?
Stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. First of all, relying on a single hard-counter that must be run to even come close to stopping her in unorganized plat matches is a problem that I’m not going to get into. Second, Mei without her abilities is one of the best compared to her dps piers. She has the best CC in the entire game on her PRIMARY FIRE. Pair that with a high range secondary, and 250 HP she is one of the best DPS without abilities. No other DPS comes close to her amount of tools at her disposal while hacked.
QFT
low elo: these heros are killing our will to live
high: git gud scrub
nek minnit:
high: waaaaah
Widow is starting to become oppressive at low elo. Partly because of smurfs, partly because, low elo or not, theres still a bunch of people that can click heads nicely, and use a hook
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Mei’s “meita” is more a function of controlling engagements in the bunker meta rather than being broken in and of herself, and Reaper is just “viable” and the first DPS to be swapped for Widowmaker, Hanzo, McCree, Pharah or Junkrat so he’s more functional rather than a must pick fwiw.
Basically, the whole meta revolves around Orisa and Mei right now, it’s a non meme version of Clockwork Comp.
I wouldn’t mind seeing the new Reaper tp gone.
I do agree orisa Hog need to be looked at but blocking orisa pull combos is not the only thing Mei does. All of her abilities can help win fights and if left untouched can 1v6
Somebody already explained it in the comments above so i’ll just copy paste it here:
As for Pharmacy, I played it yesterday against that exact comp, 70% accuracy with pharah and nothing was dying…While Mercy boosted.
To much self sustain from them and suports to shoot from afar, and if I get close to supports, boom, halt-hook and i’m dead.
But that’s just my experience…
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