Forum Brigitte Is the illusionary/delusional idea that brigitte is overpowered. Its stemed from delusions of grandeur by bad overwatch players or ones that truley dont try to learn how to counter her.
Its the idea that brig can 1v6 whole teams. The idea that she takes no skill. The idea that anyone can play her a jump from gold to masters by one tricking her.
Infact she is super easy to counter now. She didnt need her last nerf. Bastion can actually be harder and take more effort to counter now if hes being played right and has a half decent team.
In all honesty Jeff made me rofl when he said “forum brigitte”.
They already had decent game sense and knew how to play with a team. Only way. Iv seen more people try and fail on smurf accounts the go back to there mains and do far far better. Iv seen people actually loose sr from trying to one trick her to masters. This is a situational thing and does not work for everyone.
Not true, before private profiles were added the amount of people that were silver /gold and got to gm were insane, it’s hard to tell now with private profiles, but it’s obvious people are still doing it since multiple people have tried it out (someone on the forums admitted they were boosted by brig and showed their profile how they went from low gold to diamond in 1 season)
It’s just unfair how people work their butts off to get into lets say (gold > plat) then people play brig and think they’re dang gods at the game because they climb 1000 sr. Sure you DO need decent game sense/positioning as brig to climb/boosted but compare that to other heroes. Even smurf widows can’t keep up with the winrate boosted brigs have.
The only ones who fail are either:
Boosted brigs themselves and trying to say “SEE I COULDN’T CLIMB BRIGS BALANCED”
People with god awful positioning
people who think they can 1v6 with brig
people who flank with brig but don’t engage at the right time.
No hero should be able to climb as easily as brig players can, she needs a rework
I can only imagine that was in a time when people refused to counter her correctly. Because there was a time like that, and for some continues to this very day.
And the reason they were not in a higher rank to begin with is that despite having some knowledge they weren’t capable of getting value from it with the existing heroes to climb. Then a hero that gets so much value by simply being on the field and is otherwise designed in a way where the player has to do something incredibly stupid to mess up arrives and suddenly they rank up.
Some might consider that to be earned but I don’t. There needs to be a balance between a players knowledge (game sense etc.) and what the player can do mechanically (mechanical skill). A lot of people truely are experts on the game despite being lower ranked. They remain in the lower ranks because they aren’t capable of executing the right plays they know needs to be done.
Well, Brigitte is plenty counterable by competent players. If an incompetent player tried to onetrick climb with her, they will only get so far until people are just too good against them.
Only the incompetent will let an incompetent player beat them, eh? Maybe those higher ranked than them belonged lower, who knows?
The incompetent argument yet again. Brigitte exists because of people who are incompetent, why else do you think that she was made to have such high value to be meta changing for how little she requires from the player?
Because the meta was uncontestable unless it was mirrored, so they decided to shake it up in one shake? And now we have a very diverse set of heroes being used on the ladder because of it.
Unstopable? Hardly, the pros where the meta actually mattered where already finding counters with the existing heroes.
The ladder was always diverse, I don’t know why people keep pretending that Dive was the meta in ladder. Do you see people running around playing goats and doats in all ranks as well?
I don’t see that no, but when dive was a thing, yes I did see people playing that 90% of the time. Maybe not 1 to 1 the meta, certainly not using it to its full potential, but it was everywhere yes.
Playing dive heroes and playing dive are too very different things. For the most part, people played what they were good at, lots of rein, orisa and even the completely idiotic d.va and zarya tank combos.
“Dive” in ladder is just a lie people tell to justify Brig’s existence so heroes like Tracer and Genji can be played less.
I still don’t see the problem with her existence though? She was made to counter the meta, and counter it she did. Does that mean it’s unusable? Of course not, because she’s not blatantly overpowered like people want to believe.
The addition of Brigitte to the game was overall healthy I think, just because she provides a consistent and reliable counter to the most popular meta to exist without breaking the game.
I don’t think adding armor and CC to the game in the way she does is healthy. The problem is that she counters an entire team comp on her own. If she enabled existing heroes to do it as in have a dedicated counter comp, it would have been fine but that’s not the case.
She also spawned the double sniper meta as the counter to her, Goats and Doats which basically made any damage hero that’s not capable of 1 shotting or is Sombra irrelevant which is even noticeable in ladder.
I don’t think she’s overpowered. She’s overtuned and unfair.
But she doesn’t counter an entire team comp on her own, that’s hyperbole. Brigitte just makes a solid foundation for countering them, but cannot achieve it on her own. Also, I’m of the opinion that Hanzo spawned double sniper, at least on ladder.
As for being unfair, that’s simply not true because then it would be highly unlikely she had any counters rather than many. Overtuned is debatable at least.
What other were specifically used to counter dive with Brigitte? None, it’s just a regular ground based comp that dive is meant to be strong against but that has a Brigitte.
Double sniper wouldn’t have been a thing if Dive was still the dominant meta, Brigitte “ended” dive and as a result double sniper became the new dominant meta as there were no counters to it because of Brigitte.
On her being unfair is what you mean by it. I think it’s unfair that a hero that requires so little from the player gets to do so much. Yes counters exist but very few of those counters really force a swap as those counters can be counter swapped by other teammates and still keep the team comp strong.
Overcountering is also a problem, people will oversimplify countering and will just go all in on countering 1 hero on the enemy team and leave their own team with no synergy or even a win condition.
It has also been apparent that shield breaking is often times not worth it because of this, you basically have to go all out which means Bastion, junkrat and other heroes like them despite how unviable that strategy may be. This is why 1 shot heroes and Sombra are the only relevant damage in the current meta and parts of the ladder as well.