So we can all agree that Bastion ult is trash. Completely trash. The damage out put is low and just terrible and doesn’t help you in any way. Most of the time it hurts you more to use the ult than not. It takes time to go into the ult which means your afk while transforming and doesn’t do any damage to tanks and DPS you got to direct shoot them or hit them 3 to 4 times with splash damage. Now Bastion ult does 205 damage. As you all know this new patch raise the health of Mccree, Sym and Brig. Do you know how bad it feels to direct shoot a Mccree or Symmetra or Brig and they just look at you like you are dumb or something for even trying to use it? So here’s my question… Can we get a buff for bastion ult??
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Yeah, bumping it up to 225 damage would probably be fine
It still couldn’t one shot Brig, but she’s able to block the damage anyways. It would however allow Mercy boost to one shot 250 hp heroes, which is fine.
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230 no less. The whole point in making Bastion ult do 205 was to kill people with 200hp regardless of armor.
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I actually dont see much problem with his ult. Its pretty good in a team fight. I think the problem lies more with just bastion himself lol
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He literally one shots any 200hp hero, how its trash.
Mercy-boosted Bastion ult can already one shot 250 hp heroes (205*1.3=266.5).
I honestly think bastions ult is the one thing that is well balanced about bastion.
The rest of his kit needs a rework, IMO.
He only one shots if he hits them directly which is hard to do because most hero’s have ability’s to get away, stop or make it harder to hit them. So yes, it is TRASH.
Before the Mccree, Sym and Brig buff I would been fine but now that 3 more people he can’t one shot.
That’s not why it’s trash, if it even is. It has a 1.5 second transformation time for enemies to seek cover (which they’re probably already doing against a Bastion) and your potential DPS is cut in half compared to sentry so you’re worse against tanks. “You have to land a direct hit to one shot” isn’t it.
They should switch his ult from horrible projectile canon that only does damage on direct hits to a beam with 500meter range that does 100dps and 50 splash damage. Ult duration should be increased to 15sec and mobility increase when he tracks someone for 2 seconds that stacks up to 100%.
Yes the transformation time was one bad thing about bastion but you could play around it. Such as hide behind a wall then poke out and use his increase movement speed and boost to flank them.
No, his ult was trash before those changes. Bastions ult is only use is defensively but thats my oppinion.
Thats only for direct hits, still trash compared to sentry mode.
The reason I say it is better defensivly, is the fact you have to move from your safe spot to where action is to be most effective with it which most likly if timing is poor you will die. I see many bastions fall to this fate. saving it for a sombra or tracer elusivly dancing around you is way more convenient even a repear or lucio.
I don’t think his ult increases his movement speed, and neither does the wiki.
Tank mode is pretty underwhelming as an ult. It’s up there with Deadeye in the “buttons you never press” category, between its glacial transition time, self-damage, slow projectile speed, and the fact that it’s bugged so sometimes you only get seven shots instead of eight because of the transformation animations.
Oh, and let’s not forget that Blizzard robbed 150 armor from tank mode because they set up ironclad to give the same eHP (450), and never gave the armor back when they nerfed ironclad.
Alexa, play Null Sector Bastion ult line…
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That clip is using the knockback from his shots to move faster, and even then it’s not a big boost.
Literally one shots full hp non-tank heroes
Yes. Definitely low damage.
Speaking from low rank It might be trash, I’m just not sure. Truth is, a lot of time when the enemy Bastion Ults I am thinking oh thank God we can finally kill him. I see a lot of low rank Bastions throw away a perfectly fine Sentinel position to go for a POTG.
Still, it wouldn’t be the only Ult that is misunderstood and misused at low ranks.
How, I wonder, do Good med-to-high ranked Bastion players use it, or do they even use it at all?
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Only some. It does 205 damage per hit, which makes it just valuable enough to punch through, say, transcendence since it will kill squishies embraced by the Iris, but it won’t kill the 225-250 HP category heroes.
Since it does 205 DPS (and no crits), it’s arguably a DPS loss to use it unless you know you can kill multiple squishies with it, because you can just skillhose everyone with your hitscan modes instead.
Bastion can one shot 16/32 hero’s…
It’s trash in low ranks and high ranks. Most high ranks players know how to counter it and low ranks don’t know how to use it. Most high ranks bastions use it to get to high ground and to flank and use the rest of the ult for kills.