You removed McCrees because it was too good… You removed Meis because it was good… Lets remove the reset… Sleep Dart please remove
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Yeah, remove the reset.
That’s how that works and makes a ton of sense.
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mcree still have stunt, his granade can stop doomfist charging his punch, doomfist is already garbage and every other tank counters him and now even mcree
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I agree with this statement. I think…
Let’s not, because playing support would be a nightmare.
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They said they will remove it at the launch of OW2, but they butchered Cass grenade and made it even more obnoxious to play against. Hoping for something good in this game it’s like begging devs to make a worse version than before…
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Why would you position yourself correctly and not mindlessly walk around map and say your team is poop? But hey, buff support role even more. AMR?
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Yes, because a grenade that you can throw past a corner and have it lock onto someone hiding behind a wall that also disables movement abilities and explodes isn’t better.
Freeze is not healthy for the fast pace of 5v5 and she can still massively slow people down, to which she will also get a damage boost.
Skill shot with a long cooldown. It can stay as it is literally the most skill intensive CC to land in the game.
For the most part the hard CC you are talking about has been removed, which would be those of which where you cannot move your character whatsoever.
And how would you deal with this games insane mobility without cc?
It’s a necessary evil, sure it needs tweaking so it’s not so opressive for tanks, but without it tracer, genji, doomfist, ball and mercy would need serious nerfs or most players wouldn’t be able to hit them.
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I wouldn’t call it a skill shoot, with fewer shields and one less tank, and with that horrendous hit box you can bully enemy heroes pretty easily
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It is a skill shot.
Spamming it into a general mass of enemies in a choke and sleeping someone doesn’t relate to having to use it defensively on say an ulting Genji. There is a clear skill ceiling to sleep dart and is most definitely a skill shot when needing to sleep actual threats to you or your team.
Have you processed the hitbox?
Have you processed the absurdly high mobility that heroes have?
It’s almost as if it’s to compensate for that?
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Sleep dart is literally the most skill based cc in the entire game why is that the one you’re singling out
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Literally people who make these types of posts don’t realize how insanely broken heroes like tracer, genji, Lucio and wrecking ball can become when there’s nothing to stop their hyper mobility
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Why are you claiming that the motive was “because X was good”?
It’s obviously a fun-issue primarily, even if heroes get buffed to compensate for the on-paper value of their OW1 Ability later.
I’d personally rather have, and fight, as little CC as possible, but even then I don’t think /none/ is a goal really any game can get to without causing other issues (Rocket just bumps me, Tank all-ins and pins me etc, I won’t complain).
If Blizzard and its fanboys could just grasp basic concepts too, like letting us aim our characters even if they’re inactionable (which various abilities do already, just not all, and no consistency), or more soft CC effects like OW2 had compared to OW1, or constant nagging issues with the game’s netcode that make it frustrating to not have an input happen at all, then we’d have those necessary evils in a much more bearable way already.
I don’t think the all-or-nothing argument works here, even if only because Blizzard just won’t listen to axing things they personally want in the game. Even if the suggestion is healthy 
Aside from Sleep Dart though, which is so unique in function that it has its own status and a long enough cooldown to compare to most post-patch Support win Buttons (just her role’s job at the moment, and easier to “dodge” than Lamp or Rez), what other Crowd Controls do y’all want out of the game already?
I wonder why the after mentioned heroes have such miserable gameplay and time playing this game? But people like you don’t realize how insanely broken support role is.
So removing the cc from the most vroken hero in the game would make all of support worse to play sure bud
By your logic, all hit scan DPS heroes which have a way worse and more precise hit box and less dmg than some support heroes should complain as well. But you go champ type “skill issue”
I dont believe i am actually agreeing with you on something… Doesnt feel right