Learning counters

Listen up new players. It’s cool that y’all decided to play the game, it really is! But please for the love of all that is good learn the counters to each character. I should never see a junkrat playing against a zarya like I’ve been seeing now. There are plenty of videos made years ago about heroes and their soft and hard counters. The quicker you learn this the more game skill and sense you’ll achieve.

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Or just let people play what they want and focus on yourself? There is plenty of people one tricking and climbing with 1 or 2 heroes

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Oh, but didn’t the Dev team say they wanted to “reduce counters”? Since apparently everyone sticks to only two-three heroes.

Honestly, I think this game lacks in a meaningful tutorial, and relies too much on third-party sites or videos (then again, that seems to be a trend).

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Or expect people to play as a team. Because you know, it’s a team game.

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Playing as a team has nothing to do with hero choice. So people are only playing as a team if they play with what you want them to play?

At this rate Junkrat is no worse vs Zarya as she is always charged due to high bubble uptime. best you can do is burn down her cooldowns as quick as possible so she can not be aggressive with her overtuned damage.

I rather have someone focus on being good at one or two characters than be mediocre at all of them in my lobbies most the time anyway, outside of a few exceptions like Junk vs Pharah anyway.

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Right? This " switch to what i want rn or you’re throwing" mentality normally comes from the most mediocre players in the game

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Let the people play as they wish dude, is not their fault, its Overwatch 2 fault, whitout levels the team balancing got worse than before and now players already familiarized always fall with the new ones/noobs. Only thing we can do is endure the dumbness untill the new ones learn practicing in matches with formed players

If you are playing a character with a counter and are contributing nothing then you are a selfish player.

If a widow one-trick is getting dived by Winston and contributing nothing that Widow should change. If you don’t try, you threw the game.

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Basically all characters in the game rn can be played in basically any situation if youre good enough, even more if you’re playing below masters

Maybe you should then pick something to help her with the winston, since you’re a jack of all trades that is good at everything

If you’re going to tell people not to play anything that Zarya counters, you are going to be locking out 90% of the heroes in the game.

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Nothing can help widow stop Winston. Even with help Winston will stop the widow from killing people. He gets his movement faster. Widow can not get away from Winston.

And you just gave up 2 players for 1, while getting nothing out of it.

All or nothing statements like that are the sign of a bad player. Junk into zarya is fine if the junk isn’t shooting bubbles.

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Play dva and you can do it, zarya and you can bubble widow, ball can contest winston too

You’re just blaming other people’s picks while convincing yourself that there is nothing you can do, as i said, focus on yourself. Clearly a skill issue

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This is just laughably wrong. Not even close to true.

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Zarya….? Lol
Zarya bubbles Widow. Widow is safe for 2 seconds then no longer safe. Zarya Loses a bubble for the frontline where she needs to be always be because no mobility. Also potentially throwing away a bubble for the flanker making a play.

Your examples are still giving up 2 for 1. Ball and Dva can contest. But during that time the frontline is 3v4.

And don’t forget about Winston’s bubble. He’s got a way to stop her from killing and has an inherent advantage when attacking.

You’re trying your best to imagine the worst possible scenarios where no matter what you do, you will lose, to hide the fact that you’re the one to blame most of the times you lose

Yeah buddy, that’s why no one plays widow at higher elos, because if a winston jump on them we all should watch and there is nothing no one can do about it🤡

If you’ve watched OwL you don’t see widow at all. You see Winston in every game.

While there are heros that counter others directly due to their nature such as ranged hitscan vs short range, it doesnt mean you instantly swap. Improving in OW especially in lower elo isnt really based on counter play. Up in Masters to Top 500, yes for sure, counter play is important. But I have seen some crazy Junks go toe to toe with a Zarya as they knew when and if she had her bubbles and how much pressure to put into her.

Zarya is pretty powerful now with her 2 bubbles but you need to overwhelm her somehow and the only way to do that is to pump more damage into her than she can take, then mow her down. Asking players to learn as fast as they can isnt going to improve your chances of improving.

Saying this makes it look easy if they just learn game sense like its that easy. I say let everyone play what they want to play and you worry about your own improvement?

1- overwatch league is playing a different patch
2- not even GM games get close to OWL level, let’s not even talk about gold-diamond matches

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