Kiriko's projectile will be the same size as junkrat's

With the projectile increases, kiriko’s projectile will be the same size of junkrat’s current projectile…

Do I need to explain to the people in the back why it’s very stupid that the support hero that can 2 tap, is going to have the same sized projectile… as JUNKRAT.

Now obv. HP bars go up. She still doesn’t need the projectile increase and neither does A LOT of heroes… it’s ok for a support to not be able to annihilate people. it’s fine.

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I thought she couldn’t 2-tap anymore with the hp buffs.

JR’s nades also bounce, deal more bodyshot damage, deal AoE damage, he has 2 mines that contribute to his AoE burst, he has a trap to help secure the damage as well.

Kunais are Kiriko’s only method of dealing damage and the damage is severely penalized for not hitting crits.

JR is way more lethal and has a much easier time dealing more damage more consistently, idk what this comparison is about.

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This is proof that nerfing Kiriko is completely pointless. Her haters are STILL complaining about someone landing multiple headshots on them. It will never end. They could give her headshot the same multiplier as her bodyshot and they would not be satisfied.

Best to just ignore them and buff Kiriko. :innocent:

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The kiriko cult, uhhh club aproves this message

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Yes we should definitely buff supports more! You’re so right! That’s completely logical thinking and supports definitely haven’t been running the game for years!!

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No it won’t. Junkrat’s projectile size is getting decreased from 0.25 to 0.2 and then increased to 0.35. Kiriko’s is getting decreased from 0.18 to 0.15 and increased to 0.25. Junkrat’s will still be much larger.

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I am glad that you changed your mind. The internet can be a wonderful place once people hear each other out! :blush:

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They havent…
Have you forgotten the flankers at the start of OW2?
JQ meta?
Winston meta?
Zarya meta?
Genji meta?
Cass meta?
Sojourn?
Doomfist meta?
Orisa meta?
Ram meta?
Mauga meta?
Roadhog?
Sigma/Widow (especially on circuit)?

OW2 has consistently been “run” by whichever tank was the most busted at the time, supports, like always, have usually picked around whatever worked best with/against the tanks in the match. I know it’s cool to blindly spout “support bad, support OP, support run the game” but it’s just not true the vast majority of times, each role plays into and around each other.

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OP meant it will match his current projectile size. I’m not really sure what to do with the comparison though. It’s gonna be a whole new experience and we don’t even know how the game will feel.

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Ah I see. Regardless, there’s no point viewing the lens of the game after the patch as is before it. She will hit more but she requires an extra hit so if anything it’ll be less threatening.

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  1. Doom has never been meta.

  2. Most of the “metas” you mentioned… are literally caused by over sustain and broken supports… ???

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OP this is just false. Read the patch notes

Wrong.

“Hey guys, what supports do you want to play? Oh Moira and LW, okay, I will pick my tank according to you because you heal a lot :)” said nobody, ever.

It’s usually “Oh, this brawler tank is strong, let me play Lucio to speed them. This damage character benefits a lot from a mercy pocket, of course Mercy will pocket them. These supports have abilities that allow them to survive these tanks better and/or slow down these strong tanks, let me pick them. These supports can help these strong tanks stay alive longer and/or do their job easier, let me pick them.”

You pick Lucio because you have a Rein, a Ram, etc.
You pick Kiriko because you have a dive tank or Hog which usually causes the enemy to pick Ana (if they already haven’t) to play around the hog pick, not the enemy Kiriko.
You pick high sustain to keep heal-sink tanks alive.
You would pick Illari with the tanks she can keep up with and get the best use out of her short heal-beam range and stationary pylon.

You pick supports based on what enables your tank the most and/or what keeps you and/or your backline alive.

Sigma is not getting played on circuit because of “too much support sustain”, he is played on that map because his kit is strong on that map (especially against ranged hitscans who are also strong independently of supports and sustain), when pros played on that map, there was usually a Zen specifically to counter-ult Sigma. I assure you, teams did not pick Sigma to counter Zen.

Again, I know it’s “based” to blame supports for everything and it’s easy to just let your favorite e-daddy give you your opinion, however, Supports in OW2 have mainly been picked based on what best compliments the tank and/or meta damage characters or best plays around the tank and/or meta damage characters. Each role plays into and around the others.

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Kiriko kunai projectile size got nerfed i believe from 0.18m to 0.15m.

this is done because the global projectile increase is affecting her too. so the projectile is getting bigger, and they are nerfing it in response in the same patch. it’s worded strangely.

either way, everyone has more health and all dps are much better at dueling anyways so complaining about kiriko now is kinda interesting. i’m not even sure she can two tap people anymore

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I think it would be like the following, diameter-wise(cm)

Symm alt fire(50m/s, so +0.15m to the radius)
1m → 1.3m
Mercy/Hana Song(50m/s, +0.15m)
50cm → 80cm
Junkrat(+0.15m)
50cm → 40cm → 70cm
Ana Sleep Dart(+0.1m)
40cm → 60cm
Lucio(+0.15m)
30cm → 60cm
Kiriko(+0.1m)
36cm → 30cm → 50cm
Zen, Mei(+0.1m)
30cm → 50cm
Ana(no scope), Hanzo, Genji, Torb(+0.1m)
20cm → 40cm

For a comparison, the diameter of the volleyball is about 20cm and Basketball 24cm.

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I appreciate you managing to type this entire sentence without spilling your juice but a couple of seasons does not equal ‘for years.’

Why do people get bent out of shape if supports are the strong role for once!? It’s like freely admitting you want dps to be the strongest role because of ego.

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No… I’m not. Doomfist has never been meta in ow2. And he was meta once, in overwatch 1, and not even due to his own strength. He was only meta because double shield quite literally made every other dps unusable lmfao.

… don’t most people hate junkrats bombs because they have AOE (and they can be stepped on AND they bounce around for a bit)? They’re not super easy to hit with directly. I consider that pretty good if you can whap people directly with them consistently.

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She will need 3 headshots to kill now. Its nowhere near opresive anymore no matter how big the shot is.