When are we going to nerf Kiriko?
(I’m sure if we look at her winrate and pickrate both of them are incredibly inflated look at T500 leaderboard she counters Ana pretty hard too.)
Most broken support in the game get her out of here.
High heal
High damage (With HS)
High mobility
Good passive
Good hitbox
Good animations
Good utility
One of the best ultimates
2x Invulnerability frames (TP and Suzu both give invulnerbility joke character)
High lethality (She has some of the quickest kills from a support)
She completely negates some flanks for example on Echo land all your stickies on a long flank just for kiriko to completely negate it and its not like Bap where the cooldowns gone for a long time its straight backup (AND I WOULD ARGUE KIRIKOS SUZU IS ALOTTTT BETTER THAN BAPS LAMP SO WHY IS IT ON SUCH A LOW COOLDOWN?)
Her lethality is insane I think if there was a stats on supports with highest final blows it would be between her and Zen
I mean against Tracer she can straightup one combo her shes in general obnoxious to 1v1 as Tracer take even 30 damage from any spam and you have to recall or grab a healthpack otherwise theres a chance she just oneshots you.
None of the downside Zen or Ana have with their utility, when Ana uses anti shes a free kill when Kiriko uses suzu she has teleport and wallclimb still.
Zens always a freekill so not even going to talk about him.
Lamps breakable, has longer traveltime/activation time / Doesn’t stop stuns or Anti / Doesn’t stop ults / Has a longer cooldown
I mean what I always like to say is, get shattered by Rein, Suzu saves you, Lamp just prolonges your death his breaking that lamp over your body then killing you.
Its a joke they released ana broke the meta and made her the most op support EVER slowly nerfed her down and she got acclimated, and then they release Reverse ana whos MORE OP THAN OG ANA
Support powercreep is getting bad and its what enforces these oneshot metas (Which is ironic because the worst meta for a support is a oneshot meta and these supports enforce it.)
I don’t think they’ll be nerfing her for a while tbh. She’s an extremely popular new hero and she’s a pretty fun one as well. Just from a strictly marketing standpoint, it wouldn’t be smart for them to actually nerf her to the level of other heroes. They 100% should though. The wall climb is completely unnecessary, her hitbox is insanely small, and she made Orisa/Hog 10x more of a problem the same way that Mercy makes Sojourn a problem.
The only people who say that supports are weak are healbots, the very same people that complain that flankers are OP and then act surprised that Widow is one shotting them after getting the flankers nerfed.
They’re delusional support has alot of impact I recently saw a stream with seagull and surefour that surefour who played in OWL and his talking about how these supports are incredibly power crept.
I’m playing in GM and supports feel really strong the thing is (Supports feel trash in these low ranks like Silver where people aim with their feet but IN REAL RANKS SUPPORTS FEEL INCREDIBLY STRONG.)
They literally need to stop giving supports free get-out-of-jail cards as regular abilities and switch them over to ultimates.
A lot of the supports we have now have ultimates as cooldowns.
lamp and suzu both need to be reworked to damage reduction.
suzu is more frustrating to play against tho since hits stop being registered period and she can teleport from far away. Not healthy
The only thing “ridiculous” here is the obsession of people with a 0.85 second cleanse. Sorry, that your mega obvious, telegraphed ult/CC was cleansed. Buh, hu! Play better next time. All the things (besides ults) that are cleanse worthy, have a much smaller cooldown and can be baited.
In most cases the Kiriko outplays the player. Its time to get better and stop complaining. At this point its the same as the “Moira is OP” and “Pink Mercy needs to come back” threads.
Let it go. She is strong, is fun to play and can doge the stuff so many supports cant, because she was the first support for the 5v5 environment.
And back to the comment I quoted: Lamp is 10 times stronger in the right scenario than suzu and the time you need to kill the lamp is most of the time LONGER than the 0.85 seconds of suzu, with a longer and much wider effectrange.
You are being ridiculous. Its a lot of time in the heat of the moment, but not enough time to have a complete team fight in this short time. Again: I am sorry, but you need to deal with it.
I did not know suzu could fully heal EVERYONE in the 0,85 second window. /s
No I dont shes broken and she needs to be nerfed just say you’re a blatant support bias especially kiriko bias player and get over it.
Multiple high rank players complain about her and if you look at the t500 leaderboard she shows up more than anyone else usually in the top 1 playtime spot.