Kiri now has the worst win rate in the game… how long does this hero have to be bad just because she’s is one of the few mobility supports with high skill expression?
I’m truely sorry at the highest level when supports are being dove they had historically chose kiri.
But do we really want to build the game around %1 of the players…. I say nay it’s just not fair
Kiri is one of the most popular supports and super fun to play. How long does she gotta stay on the trash…. Even soj they have started to bring back from the farm
Where did you get those stats? Did you steal them from Blizzard Headquarter? Lol! If you gonna say Overbuff, it doesn’t mean anything because of they can’t include private profiles and there are tons of private profiles out there so you are just throwing random things here and there buddy
Something something it’s the Kiriko players fault that her win rate is low, so we can’t help her. But when another character has an iffy w/l record, then omg, lets buff them soon!
Still, I wouldn’t want them to mess with Kiri balance too much.
The devs have came out and said overbuff is fairly accurate.
It may be off 1-2% but kiri is pushing %40 win rate….
Do you really feel a %40 win rate is okay?
Like I understand when the best player in the lobby goes kiri it’s frustrating…. But the best player in the lobby has access to plenty of hero’s including bap and illari…. They will just pick something else….
Kiriko is one of those heroes that’s kept down because of the playerbase’s perception of them. People think she’s strong, so the devs nerf her based on that perception even if she isn’t. The truth is that Kiriko has been struggling for a long time, and if they come out and buff her there will be outrage from people who think they know better.
And literally came out and said the very next day that only for winrates in silver, gold, and plat and not any other ranks.
I’m a Kiriko main and know she’s nowhere near as good as people perceive her to be. But Overbuff is not accurate for the ranks where stats actually matter unfortunately.
Well, people want to balance around what the actual game is like and not just numbers so I guess kiriko suffers for it
What they said is it’s less accurate for “very high” ranks. That probably just means champion a̶n̶d̶ ̶b̶r̶o̶n̶z̶e̶ (bronze is bigger than masters so nvm) specifically to be fair. The sample size is too low since GM is basically t500 on PC after all
Yes, I missed a Reddit AMA before 5 months ago. I found it now and read it. Gavin Winter mentioned that it is only accurate in terms of win rate in only mid-ranks. It doesn’t mean Overbuff provides accurate data. Nothing has changed except the time I wasted, but thanks anyway
Counterswap hero that requires good mechanics and timing while juno/brig dominating games meaning kiri/lucio not being played for a while. She’s still an A tier hero with tons of carry potential no matter how you cut this cake.
This for sure. Kiriko has been extremely strong for the vast majority of OW2. People are acting like she’s been beyond terrible for years or something.
I think if Brig/Juno got appropriate changes/nerfs, Kiriko would definitely feel a lot better.
But quite honestly, if you want any noticeable buffs for Kiriko - Suzu has to be seen to first. Get rid of the Invulnerability on it or something. Then buff and change whatever you want.
that might help