Yes, that includes Ana. Widow and Hanzo had no room in this game in the first place. Yes, it came from Kaplan’s old-school Half-life death matches and copy-pasting the formula from TF2, but not every FPS needs a sniper. Especially one-hit-kill ones. Especially snipers with high-mobility options.
Nobody in real life is 360-ing fools like there is no tomorrow, that position is actually quite static. So boosting both Hanzo and Widow, and Ashe by the way, with tools that can move their bums across the map like kites on crack is ridiculous. Either ground those mf’s or gut their one-hit potential.
I am just tired, boss.
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We also gotta get the rid of melee-focused characters because melee has to be stronger due to extremely low effective distance which isn’t fair comparing to the true ranged DPS; all explosions and AoE of all sorts because it’s not fair to die to indirect hits in an FPS games; all characters with ray-based attacks because they deal too many tics of damage every second; and then we can finally rerelease this game with a brand new name Overwatch 76
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I feel that Widow’s the worst of that lot by a mile because all of those characters have some sort of downside to being at massive range. At extreme ranges, Ashe is affected by fall-off and has a harder time lobbing dynamite; Hanzo has projectile qualities to worry about; Ana has a harder time hitting enemies with her jar of dodgy stuff. Widow thrives on playing at uninteractable ranges because she doesn’t care about any of her abilities to kill people and has a hitscan OHKO. All she needs is a sightline to get to work.
I’m not denying that the likes of Ashe are strong, mind you. But if I had the choice of going up against two Ashes or against Widow + whoever? I’m pretty sure I’d take the two Ashes every time, even when the two Ashes would be the optimal choice for red team. Ashe is capable of dominating a lobby but she doesn’t feel like the fun police the same way as Widow does.
The game feels like a poor man’s Counter-Strike when Widow’s around.
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Aint nobody touching my boi Hanjo
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Hanzo is fine
Widow has been busted for years
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ur problem with ana is her sniper?come on…
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Ana has neither of these, so why are you including her in this assessment?
Skill issue.
Idc.
Skill issue. (I enjoy the challenge of killing snipers)
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So Ana IS fine? Agree with Widow, but Hanzo is more like midrange hero.
You party right. Old school snipers were good on 6v6 and they were very skill demanded. 5v5 is twice as fast and snipers are not designed for this
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Ana’s gun is the most inoffensive part of her 
If you’re gunning for my main, at least hit her in the sleep dart or anti-nade. That’s where she’s powerful.
She is my main. So, I included her to give the dps a bone. I think she is fine but if it means Widow can be tossed into the garbage I would happily part with the old gal. This goes for hansoap and asherly. I am fine with them. But let them all be gone if we get rid of the Widow.
It depends on who you main. Her gun outclasses every hitscan at midrange outward except Widow, and she doesn’t even need to hit headshots to do it.
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It can but I figured it being DoT would be inoffensive. I don’t hear people complain about her damage typically…but maybe that’s because other supports just do the whole damage thing better 
I just rank her abilities higher on the “things that sucks going against Ana” hierarchy.
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Just yeet all aim mechanics, make the game take zero skill.
Just ruin the coolest heroes in the game to please bot players.
Ana’s problem isn’t her gun, it’s anti/ nano boosting her. Supports babied af with broken utility/ ultimate’s
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Totally agree. We should make things take more skill. Remove the scope from Widow and make her use iron sights. That’s true skill there.
If ever my indie studio takes off, I have an explicit no sniper policy in my games.
Snipers only had such high burst because they needed it to get kills between the ample amounts of damage mitigation. With barriers being gutted and 1 tank, that is not an excuse anymore.
She also has the 3rd lowest dps in the game. Lack of headshots is a weakness not a strength since it doubles her ttk
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Okay anyways. We should nerf the support role that I know you love to abuse.