Just though of a neat Sym turret idea

When you throw a sentry turret, pressing the interact key will convert the turret to old photon barrier, on a long-ish cooldown, consuming the turret. Same hand gesture as old photon barrier.

Just shootin’ the $#!%. Thoughts?

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And what is the corresponding nerf in exchange for giving her an entire additional ability?

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Nothing. She doesn’t need a nerf

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If she gains an entirely new ability, then yes, she does.

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Because having that barrier is clearly gonna make her OP

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Lol right? Clearly this would throw her over the top since she’s such a dominant force already!

Besides, my idea specifically was written in a way that it would “use up” a sentry turret in flight to use. You’d have to make sure you had a sentry off cooldown, plus the barriers own internal cooldown.

It’s not like I just tacked it on for free!

I love the idea because using this would be like a dance sequence, which is what Sym is all about. Elegantly waving her arms to throw the turret, then a swift graceful turn of her left hand to make it turn into a barrier.

Beautiful.

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Good idea, needs a trade off, Sym isn’t anything close to as bad as forums say and she doesn’t have photon barrier anymore for a reason. I’d increase her ult cost by 10% or so since she’d be doing more damage and shrink the photon barrier so its more in the ball park of Brig’s shield. Probably only give it 300 hp.

Still probably the best Sym buff i ever read.

We’re talking about that floaty shield thing, right?

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I don’t know if it needs trade off, but if it does: Maybe make it use your current remaining turrets as a resource. Using this ability would use up all your stowed turrets and depending how many you had determines the health of the shield.

Lets not pretend that her kit works within itself outside turretbomb because its a disjointed mess. Photon Barrier isnt a thing anymore because Blizz didnt ask how valuable it was for Sym mains, and it shows because her biggest issue with her primary is that she cant stay at close range because she is even more squishy that before (and Photon Barrier was a useful defensive).

Blizz kept her close range beam, nerfed its reliability and effective damage while reducing her survability to zero. A personal shield didnt break her when she was stronger at close range, and it wont now that her primary is a pinpoint tracking nightmare.

Its quite obvious that improving her kit was never the objective of the rework, and instead it was introducing what borders on OWL-only gimmicks so she could be seen sporadically there.

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A hero that is underpowered getting buffed doesnt need a compensation nerf

But sure here it is

  • turret health reduced from 30 to 29.9
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How about we delete TP and massively buff Symmetra with all that overcentralizing about of power this stupid TP gimmick has instead?

Maybe that way 90% of the playerbase could have a complete hero instead of OWL Gimmick The Hero™.

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Sym is not underpowered, but sure :slight_smile:

You’re saying using a 10 second cooldown and one of three sentries isn’t bad enough?

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I’m for that. Never liked it lol

The nerf could be that you can’t place TP until PB is off cooldown, then you can choose between either TP or PB again. Maybe a 12 second cooldown for PB? Or just the same logic but instead of TP it would be her turrets. I feel like if it’s brought back she’d have too many shields considering her ultimate.

She is kind of weak still

Her skill curve is super steep, and she offers very little reward for the skill you put in her, really she needs buffs that make her less team reliant

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Although I liked Photon Barrier, it isnt coming back, and I am glad about. Sym is so much better now, and stats show it. She is finally played in OWL, and that means that she is effective(maybe not as effective on Ladder, but still useful when used right). She doesn’t need buffs/reworks/nerfs. You all need to take off the subjective glasses and see her potential, as many others did. You want her to be meta? Well too bad, I want her to be niche and fine, as she is on live atm.

I really like this idea. It would be nice to block shatters again, which this couldn’t, but I still really like it

I’ve thought for the longest time that she should be able to throw a turret or a Photon barrier on a similar mechanic to Moira’s orbs.

she gains an old ability.