I don’t wanna sound toxic but christ these 2 maps are the worst maps I’ve ever played on any game.
Nobody likes them how about instead of reworking them just remove them completely.
I’ve triggered the snowflakes again by saying “nobody” so lemme rephrase that.
A majority of the playerbase does NOT like these maps.
I don’t care if you do. Have a poll and see who wins.
They’ve already did remove them and “those” maps won’t return…at least not in their current state…if and when they come back they won’t be the same…
Plenty do though…you don’t speak for everyone
Wish these maps were removed from every game mode
A lot of Overwatch’s maps look pretty but are functionally awful. There’s more bad maps than there are good ones.
I like them… They are my top fav maps but I like them. So there… your “nobody” claim was just proven wrong.
“Nobody likes them” is an exaggeration of the truth, tho’. A lot of players leave the maps when they realize, until the point I saw both my team and enemy team being emptied twice before the time to select a hero ended. Besides the many times I played it without a player that left from the beginning… it never happens so often in other maps as it does in Colony and Paris.
There’s nothing much wrong with the newest version of Horizon. People just keep bashing it even when most of the problems have been fixed already. Anubis and Hanamura are much worse than Horizon. Paris needs some changes to make the first point little easier to attack and the second point little easier to defend and it’s good enough. I’d personally switch the position of the entrance to the small room on the left side of the first choke from attackers perspective to be in safety at the attackers side instead of right in the choke where the defenders can spam from the high ground. On the second point I’d make the defender high ground little better. Maybe make it larger or make another level and stairs in the open.
I’d be fine with 2CP gone entirely. Let Push replace it. Then we can play the rest of the maps and we won’t need map pools anymore.
So is “Everyone loves them”.
These maps are only on non-competitive modes. If you leave these maps in QP or Arcade you are reallllly bad at this game.
No. It is "Almost everyone doesn’t like it.
The truth is ‘almost everyone’, the exaggeration is ‘everyone’. What you wrote was the ‘opposite’… So it was your mistake.
By the time I wrote it, the map was normally played in any mode and was banned just after. BUT even if today they are only in QP, the map is still bad enough that makes people abandon the matches until today (after this way long time). It doesn’t matter the elo, because in QP you can play with mixed elos, from the lowest to the highest. And the highest can’t be pointed out as “bad players” or “low skill players”. Even so, they dodge the map as well. Even streamers in warm ups before competitive dodge those maps because they acknowledge the maps provide an unbalanced experience unfit for a fair game.
In the end, it’s all about that single choke with only one route to take A. The alternate routes, if they exist, take too long to position. All abilities are reset by the time a group manages to take the alternative route. Oftentimes, like Hanamura, there is no alternative route to A. It’s just ONE CHOKE with a bunch of random undefended stuff after it.
Instead of scattering defender positions around, which is what anyone logical would do, the defender positions are wide open and everyone has to play cat and mouse with them. All because of that stupid choke.
3 MONTHS LATER
I literally forget what was even being talked about here.
Most of the playerbase
Pls IDC if you remove them but let me keep piano and low grav
PLEASE!
Have mercy you MONSTER D:
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Nuuuu pls don’t do it
Nuuuuu 
I find it weird that they were removed from competitive already, but somehow are still okay for QP.
Well, if they were removed for gameplay reasons and not balance reasons, they shouldn’t be in anything but custom games.
I would rather play those maps than Illios and Nepal
I know right? Horizon is nowhere near as broken as it was initially and has very strong initial high ground control for defenders.
Wait until you see Crossroads from Mordhau.